[TenderTendon]

WHAT?! Power measurements give you a good notion as to the power of a device? Such blasphemy! I won't stand for it!

I agree. Complete hogwash!

 

[TenderTendon]

It would be great if you could made the same measurement for DX200 balanced output

I could, but I don't have access to one.

 

[warrior1975]

Wow ... Cowon S more powerful ?
Please make some comparison between thise two

That was just a quick feeling. No measurements or direct comparison. I'll try to compare head to head tonight. The Cowon S is a very powerful device though... As is the DX200.

gearofwar Fair enough bro. Cheers

 

[hung031086]

Man this dap is great. It's burning 21 hours nonstop but it isn't warm at all. It doesn't like my all opus1, dpx1, ak70, qp1r, they got really warm easily. And battery is awsome. Love it

 

[bvng3540]

Man this dap is great. It's burning 21 hours nonstop but it isn't warm at all. It doesn't like my all opus1, dpx1, ak70, qp1r, they got really warm easily. And battery is awsome. Love it

You love it even more when you get 4.4mm

 

[gearofwar]

Man this dap is great. It's burning 21 hours nonstop but it isn't warm at all. It doesn't like my all opus1, dpx1, ak70, qp1r, they got really warm easily. And battery is awsome. Love it

perfect high-end portable solution indeed.

 

[mscott58]

Ok i will check it later

I saw they just have 2.5mm, 3.5mm

 


ALO will also make a 4.4mm now - just ask. Cheers

 

[blazinblazin]

I don't even need to charge it using a plug.

I just connect it to my com and insert songs and tidy up my folders and plug out, it last hours. It's like so convenient.

 

[MacedonianHero]

  i thought wm1a does not have tidal

 
 

It does not have Tidal. I think he meant it is the only thing lacking out of those ticked boxes

 
^ Correct!

 

[hung031086]

Well how come my vegas is less bass than usual when i pair it with 1A ? i don't know that did i do something wrong in settings or not lolz.

 

[nanaholic]

What has this world come to when we discard measured data in favor of opinions?     Well, here's some more data to ignore...

I just measured the output of the 1A and 1Z. They both measure exactly the same, BTW. All measurements are on the balanced jack using high gain with a 1Khz test tone. I don't have a QP1R here to test, so all I have to compare with is the manufacturers published specs.

Into 300 ohm load = 2.06 volts (14mW) A slight edge on the QP1R at 12mW (approximately 17% higher).
Into 32 ohm load = 2.02 volts (128mW) 3 times the QP1R's claimed output of 40mW.
Into 16 ohm load = 2.0 volts (250mw) The only posted dated for the QP1R into a 16 ohm load is 16.3mw (Wow!).

This data shows that the Sony and Questyle have a somewhat equal maximum voltage output, but the Sony is capable of delivering MUCH more current.

Didn't you get the memo? 2017 is the year of "alternate facts", so of course power measurements SUPPLIED BY THE MANUFACTURER is not a true representation of output power, also something something fake news.

it's embarrassing when someone copy and paste the marketing material without understanding the difference. All a current mode amp does is that it holds current constant while varying voltage for power output, whereas traditional voltage amps is the other way around, holding voltage constant while varying current. Simple science and engineering fact. In the end the final maximum output power doesn't care whether you are varying current or voltage, so when the OEM says it's X mW, that's as final as it gets. And here the WM1 trounces on the QP1R.

It appears that gears wants to argue sonic characteristics but thinly mask it with stuff he is passing off as objectivity - and that is wrong because sonic characteristics like cold/warm etc are a pure subjective preference, not objective fact.

 

[gearofwar]

 

 
 
 
Comparison for someone who is interested. If you are so sure on measurement numbers, don't bother.
QP1R beats 1Z on balance mode by a small margin in term of driving power.
Credits: @rudi0504 

 

[blazinblazin]

  Well how come my vegas is less bass than usual when i pair it with 1A ? i don't know that did i do something wrong in settings or not lolz.

 
Burn in.
 
Up the volume.
 
Try high gain.
 
Use a 4.4mm balanced cable.

 

[blazinblazin]

 
 
 
 
Comparison for someone who is interested. If you are so sure on measurement numbers, don't bother.
QP1R beats 1Z on balance mode by a small margin in term of driving power.
Credits: @rudi0504 

 
Looks like it's just a small margin. 
 
It's not like heaven and hell of a difference.
 
So there is nothing to fight about. Chill guys.

 

[gearofwar]

   
Looks like it's just a small margin. 
 
It's not like heaven and hell of a difference.
 
So there is nothing to fight about. Chill guys.

I'm cool from beginning that qp1r is more powerful than 1z in reality. Not just "Being trounced"