SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A
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Jun 4, 2020 at 10:36 AM Post #38,881 of 45,723
There is 3.5mm balanced out there too, which will not work for your needs. Don’t think you can go balanced to single ended without damaging your player.
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Don’t think you can plug 3.5mm single ended into that?
Good point. Got it, Moose. Meaning there is no solution to that. I figured the worst thing I can do is not ask. Thank you very much
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 10:37 AM Post #38,882 of 45,723
You need to check the settings for high gain output, as that gets reset to lower volume with a reset or a firmware change.


No headphones have balanced that size.
You will end up plugging an unbalanced headphones that will short the balance outputs together.
Best to use a 4.4 cable if your headphones support balanced input.
For example, the portable sony 1am2 has a separate balanced cable for this use.

Unless you're using the headphones like these, with a balanced plug for it.
You can't just use any plug or headphone that fits.
Was thinking of my WH-1000XM3. I'll just stick to my IER-Z1R and 1AM2. Roger that and thank you
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 10:38 AM Post #38,883 of 45,723

Hmm, you mentioned "if the headphones can only use 3.5mm". If the headphones are the one with the 3.5mm, then the player has to be the one with the 4.4mm, right?

The adapter in your link does 4.4mm (player) to 3.5mm (headphones), but it's balanced 4.4 to balanced 3.5. Your headphones most probably are single ended 3.5, so the adapter won't work.

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A single ended 3.5mm connector would have only 3 poles.
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 10:57 AM Post #38,884 of 45,723
Jun 4, 2020 at 10:57 AM Post #38,885 of 45,723
Good point. Got it, Moose. Meaning there is no solution to that. I figured the worst thing I can do is not ask. Thank you very much

No there is no adaptor that will allow you to use a headphone that is cabled and terminated for single ended (3 sections on the plug) from the balanced output. You can go the other way and get an adaptor that will allow a balanced cabled and terminated phone from the single ended output. And you can use adaptors to go from one single ended termination to a different single ended termination or from one balanced termination to another balanced termination like the one you linked that goes between 4.4 balanced and 3.5 balanced
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 10:59 AM Post #38,888 of 45,723
Jun 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM Post #38,889 of 45,723
WH1000XM3 doesn't support 4 poles 3.5mm balanced, or any kind of balanced connection at all, so I wouldn't recommend this.

Ali Express is gonna be Ali Express sometimes.
That will not work as the XM3 female terminal only has 3 sections for single ended

Of course, that’s what I get for believing the listing would work.

Thank-you.
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 11:07 AM Post #38,890 of 45,723
WH1000XM3 doesn't support 4 poles 3.5mm balanced, or any kind of balanced connection at all, so I wouldn't recommend this.

Ali Express is gonna be Ali Express sometimes.
That will not work as the XM3 female terminal only has 3 sections for single ended

So even though it’s suggested in the cable listing that it would work, the cable would actually ruin the Walkman!

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Jun 4, 2020 at 11:11 AM Post #38,891 of 45,723
Actually going to try the direct connection with the XM3 to the 1Z for the first time and see if there's a difference using the Noise Canceling feature in wired mode and check out how the DSP's will process.

Other question, if you use the equalizer, will it also eat at the battery just like the DSP does? If so, got it. Just to be aware and I'll probably keep the DSP route if I find a tuning that works unless the normal sound with the 3.5mm and Noise Canceling make my ears happy.
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 11:11 AM Post #38,892 of 45,723
So even though it’s suggested in the cable listing that it would work, the cable would actually ruin the Walkman!


It depends if some pins will be connected together when you're inserting 3.5 male balanced into 3.5 female single ended.

This can also just result in having sound only on one side while using the cable.

Actually going to try the direct connection with the XM3 to the 1Z for the first time and see if there's a difference using the Noise Canceling feature in wired mode and check out how the DSP's will process.

They actually sound better if listening while they are turned on and with noise cancelling active.
 
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Jun 4, 2020 at 11:32 AM Post #38,893 of 45,723
So even though it’s suggested in the cable listing that it would work, the cable would actually ruin the Walkman!


It might or it might not. Some have reported that the WM players have some kind of protection build in to prevent a short, don’t know how. Another result could be that you only get sound in one side depending on how the 4 sections on the male plug mates with the 3 sections in the female socket
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 11:33 AM Post #38,894 of 45,723
Actually going to try the direct connection with the XM3 to the 1Z for the first time and see if there's a difference using the Noise Canceling feature in wired mode and check out how the DSP's will process.

Other question, if you use the equalizer, will it also eat at the battery just like the DSP does? If so, got it. Just to be aware and I'll probably keep the DSP route if I find a tuning that works unless the normal sound with the 3.5mm and Noise Canceling make my ears happy.

Any dsp effect including eq will take a hit on battery life, some effects probably more than others
 
Jun 4, 2020 at 11:47 AM Post #38,895 of 45,723
Looks THE best modes for me are the 1A or 1Z in 4.4mm using the IER-Z1R and 1AM2 and in BT wireless mode with the WH-1000XM3. Regarding the XM3, it has that right amount of bass I’m looking for while still bringing out the mids and highs more. The problem with the BT mode for the XM3 is that it will eat at the batteries quickly and from my understanding, it is not a good idea to charge the batteries while using BT mode and only charge from low to 90% so the battery can be preserved the longest. Seems like there is no easy workaround for the XM3. From my perspective, a little bit sad but wow it sounds better than I thought with the LDAC
 
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