[nanaholic]

It has over the years with almost all players I’ve encountered where you use the hadphone out as a line out been the standard recommandation to use the highest possible output on the player and then use the external amp for volume control

Old folk wisdom is not always correct. You update your knowledge when new information is available.

If you just go see actual measurements of even TOTL players, maximum volume always introduce a bit of distortion. So it can't be good advice.

Also I know Sony engineers says for their device - even their most high end DMP-Z1, high gain is a bit more course and less ideal than normal gain which is why they always recommend using normal gain unless you are driving a difficult load and you REALLY need that extra power.

 

[nc8000]

Old wisdom is not always correct. You update your knowledge when new information is available.

If you just go see actual measurements of even TOTL players, maximum volume always introduce a bit of distortion. So it can't be good advice.

Well the best advice must be that each individual finds the balance they find sounds best for them

 

[meomap]

Yes I’ve be using that combo no problem though for that use I bought the A45 as I can hear no difference between the 2 over LDAC. Have you enabled NFC on the 1Z ?

Will test it tonight. Thanks.

 

[buzzlulu]

I really think that somewhere I read an interview with Sony engineers where this issue about outputting from the 1Z was discussed???

 

[LeFaucon]

I really think that somewhere I read an interview with Sony engineers where this issue about outputting from the 1Z was discussed???

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sony-nw-wm1z-wm1a.815841/page-919 ?

https://www.sony.jp/walkman/special/flagship/manufacturer/interview04.html : Google translate is your friend...

 

[buzzlulu]

Thanks for that. I read it in its entirety with Translator however did not find anything which commented on how to use the 1Z as an analog out.

I did find this however, item #12, which SPECIFICALLY states not to use the BALANCED port out

https://helpguide.sony.net/dmp/nwwm1/v1/en/contents/TP0001449016.html

 

[LeFaucon]

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sony-nw-wm1z-wm1a.815841/page-919 ?

Thanks for that. I read it in its entirety with Translator however did not find anything which commented on how to use the 1Z as an analog out.

I did find this however, item #12, which SPECIFICALLY states not to use the BALANCED port out

https://helpguide.sony.net/dmp/nwwm1/v1/en/contents/TP0001449016.html

Yes you are right : it’s clearly indicated

« If you use an audio cable to connect the headphone jack (Balanced Standard) to the line-in jack of an audio device, it may damage the device. «

 

[buzzlulu]

So now we are back to the original question if the SINGLE ENDED output can be used for analog out?

 

[nc8000]

So now we are back to the original question if the SINGLE ENDED output can be used for analog out?

As someone mentioned earlier the 4.4 seems to work even though it shouldn’t and the 3.5 definately works. I’ve used the 4.4 out to 2x3-pin balanced when I had a big balanced amp and that worked fine as well

 

[nc8000]

Going simple these days as it is too hot with the Z1R

 

[gerelmx1986]

Going simple these days as it is too hot with the Z1R

Same for me 40 C here in DE

 

[kalo86]

Hello guys, maybe my question is a little bit off topic, but I would like to know how the Sony IER-Z1R pairs with the WM1A. I have the Sony ZX300 and I would like to try them.

 

[gerelmx1986]

Hello guys, maybe my question is a little bit off topic, but I would like to know how the Sony IER-Z1R pairs with the WM1A. I have the Sony ZX300 and I would like to try them.

Very very good pairing, level of resolution and details is crazy, the bass texture is superb. Sounsrage is gargantuan and also instrument separation very very well

 

[kalo86]

Very very good pairing, level of resolution and details is crazy, the bass texture is superb. Sounsrage is gargantuan and also instrument separation very very well

I plan to use the IER-Z1R through the balanced output, do you think that the 200mW power output of the ZX300 will be enough? I don't think that the 250mW of the WM1A will make the difference (only +50mW more with respect to the ZX300).

 

[Whitigir]

Yes you are right : it’s clearly indicated

« If you use an audio cable to connect the headphone jack (Balanced Standard) to the line-in jack of an audio device, it may damage the device. «

You guys are being confused.

That topic was in regarding of 4.4mm out into line in, and which line in typically is, is a single ended connection (3.5mm)

This is the question that had been answered many times by me and others...do never use balanced out to connect to single ended in...you will short out 2 active signals and that is L- and R- , that will damage your device.

Again, nothing is wrong with using 4.4mm as balanced to a balanced input on any device. They are typically standard by XLR3 dual.

Never balanced to single ended