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Apr 12, 2022 at 1:39 AM Post #2,176 of 15,698
Apr 12, 2022 at 1:53 AM Post #2,177 of 15,698
Although cd data is digital, there’s also the issue with physical scratches or dust on your disc which will cause read errors. It will require the cd rom disc drive to retry reading the area again. There’s a few types of error correction mechanisms involved and the ability of the cd rom disc drive’s laser to read the damaged data. The software also has its own part on how many retries it is willing to take before relying on interpolated data or worse case where unrecoverable sound error sips in in the form of empty sound or clicks when the disc is very badly scratched.

So it’s not so simple as ones and zeros.

Not sure how the Sony hardware does it but there are specialised cd ripping software that do function to get more accurate rips
 
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Apr 12, 2022 at 1:58 AM Post #2,178 of 15,698
MrWalkman said:
Unless it processes the sound in some way, the CD data is digital, so I don't see what could be better.
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I'm rather skeptical here. Not regarding some sort of ripping quality but when it comes to usability. We know any internet source for getting the right/wanted music tags has loads of errors or unwanted notations. I guess in case the tagging is important to you manual editing won't be fun with such a device, if possible at all.
I found https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/CD-5WK-Smartphone-Computer-Connection-Compatible/dp/B09T3911WP?th=1. It tells almost nothing about the supported codecs and file formats. "5 quality modes". Guess you have to investigate further before investing 😉
 
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Apr 12, 2022 at 2:38 AM Post #2,179 of 15,698
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Apr 12, 2022 at 2:49 AM Post #2,180 of 15,698
MrWalkman said:
https://www.iodata.jp/ssp/cdreco/cdreco/

It seems that it's usable with any Android device, and even with iOS ones, and you can also burn audio CDs.
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Ah, o.k. It says
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So, rather limited. And strange mixture... AAC (rather iOS related), FLAC (closer to Android). And I read something about ALAC.
As long as you have a ripping enabled computer with all the flexibility you may need I wouldn't invest into this combo.
 
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Apr 12, 2022 at 3:13 AM Post #2,182 of 15,698
Sonywalkmanuser said:
Although cd data is digital, there’s also the issue with physical scratches or dust on your disc which will cause read errors. It will require the cd rom disc drive to retry reading the area again. There’s a few types of error correction mechanisms involved and the ability of the cd rom disc drive’s laser to read the damaged data. The software also has its own part on how many retries it is willing to take before relying on interpolated data or worse case where unrecoverable sound error sips in in the form of empty sound or clicks when the disc is very badly scratched.

So it’s not so simple as ones and zeros.

Not sure how the Sony hardware does it but there are specialised cd ripping software that do function to get more accurate rips
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Seen the video previously from Hans Beekhuyzen, he did mentioned something about older or less processing power PC is better for ripping. So was thinking maybe this simple setup would be good as well.
 
Apr 12, 2022 at 3:56 AM Post #2,184 of 15,698
I have got Hewlett Packard ProBook 650 G5. I bought it one and half years ago and it is still equipped with a CD/DVD drive. As I have found out later on after purchasing dBpoweramp and setting it up, this drive is a better one as it made some setup regarding corrections of reading errors possible. DBpoweramp offers many setup possibilities including number of reading trials and "Accurate Ripping" possible.

Reading SW help prior setting the drive up is highly recommended as it contains e.g. the recommended setup as well.
It is also possible to check on a webpage which drives support advanced error correction techniques.

Before buying the SW licence I have searched extensively in various forums/threads for user experience with different ripping SWs.
Even based on my so far rather short-time experience with CD ripping via dBpoweramp on my notebook I think the user recommendations valuing dBpoweramp as the that time best SW ripper have not lied. I cannot also but highly recommend it. The licence cost is not cheap but worth every penny.

So, with a better internal or nowadays unfortunately rather external CD/DVD drive it is a great combo for CD ripping.
 
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Apr 12, 2022 at 4:09 AM Post #2,185 of 15,698
I would highly recommend this German freeware for ripping cd audio accurately. I have tried with quite badly scratched disc and gotten good results with it, been using this software since about 20years ago.

https://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/
 
Apr 12, 2022 at 4:25 AM Post #2,186 of 15,698
Yep, I also can recommend dBpoweramp. It also offers complex rules for folder and file naming for ripped tracks. I hate ripping apps writing the track files in cryptic folder and file structures. In addition it offers quite a lot of codecs, parameters, and file formats. And furthermore, it is able to grab cover art from different sources, always showing the image resolution. I never had any issues with it. And it's for free.
 
Apr 12, 2022 at 4:52 AM Post #2,187 of 15,698
Sonywalkmanuser said:
Although cd data is digital, there’s also the issue with physical scratches or dust on your disc which will cause read errors. It will require the cd rom disc drive to retry reading the area again. There’s a few types of error correction mechanisms involved and the ability of the cd rom disc drive’s laser to read the damaged data. The software also has its own part on how many retries it is willing to take before relying on interpolated data or worse case where unrecoverable sound error sips in in the form of empty sound or clicks when the disc is very badly scratched.

So it’s not so simple as ones and zeros.

Not sure how the Sony hardware does it but there are specialised cd ripping software that do function to get more accurate rips
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For decades of developments, in assembly, c/c++ ... I can confirm that on any drives (CD or medias) there are only ones and zeros and nothing else than some parity data to correct easily reading errors. Even with error corrections, a zero can't become a one => in no case, this can happen, it just would make a disaster.

When playing music with drive errors => as any drives, they have a large buffer, at worse you will only get clipping/scratches/lost of music and in no way a kind of analog limitations like distortion, reduce sound stages, layering, loss of low frequencies...
 
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Apr 12, 2022 at 5:07 AM Post #2,189 of 15,698
Lookout57 said:
The WM1A/Z and ZX300 are pure Linux DAP's. No bloat and with MrWalkman's custom firmware (which can't be done on Android players), you get the best pure DAP.
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curious if 1am2 is (much) better than 1am1 in sound

also curious if i should buy a 2nd 1a as a backup or just save up and buy 1z

1st world problems
 
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