MuZo2
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Are there bass light and bass heavy CD3000 ?
Are there bass light and bass heavy CD3000 ?
Strange as the driver number for R10 & CD3000 are same. So it might be related to damping material used inside R10 for variations in bass.
I was just wondering because of all the "bass light" and "bass heavy" talk in the thread. From what I gathered, "bass heavy" R10's are approximately serial #'s 1000 and up? Thanks for the information guys.
Are there bass light and bass heavy CD3000 ?
Strange as the driver number for R10 & CD3000 are same. So it might be related to damping material used inside R10 for variations in bass.
Just curious. Where did you find that info?
I only ask because I specifically recall from years ago, 2008-2009ish, someone did a lot of leg work digging in to this to determine if they indeed used the same driver and the conclusion was that it was not the same. I'm not sure how far back the search archive goes on Head-Fi nowadays, but I know this discussion took place prior to the website going through it's big format/layout change a couple years back. I'm sure Jude archived everything from prior to the changeover but I'm not positive how to go about digging up that thread.
I remember about 2008-ish looking at website with replacement drivers for the CD3000 and R10. The CD3000 drivers were about $270 and the R10 drivers were about $900, so I'm pretty sure they are different. I think they were all out of stock even then.
Just like you, I'm a fan of Doug's amps. My DSHA-0 was a prototype of the "1" but then I sent it in for an upgrade.... so it is now as good or if not better than the soon-to-be-out DSHA-2. The thing with the R10 is that it doesn't need as much power as the HD800 or HEK so it will sound really good out of something like the L2 and DSHA-1. However, I do agree that an additional power can contribute to more effortless sound reproduction as well as better sense of dynamic. Still the SDS-XLR is ever so glorious at presenting the size of the soundstage as well as providing a much needed bass slam to the R10. I'm a lover of the HD800 too and it sounds marvelously good out of Doug's amps and the SDS-XLR as well. The SDS-XLR was retailed around 8.5K back during the height of Single Power. I got luck out a big time a few years back and bought it for less than the 3K. Mine also is the first ever SDS-XLR, built at the time when Mikhail was out making a name for himself and completely sane.
I'm afraid the DIY T2 with either the SR009 or HE90 will place first in most competition. That amp is just insanely great and really has no know weakness. I also own the KGSSHV Carbon with a golden reference psu....but not Mjolnir's model and it is still not quite up there in some ways to the BHSE so let alone the T2. I never had a pleasure to try out Pete's amps but I'm confident that his stuff are legendary as well. The R10 is some ways will always be superior to other phones due to its tone and sense of soundstage and warmth. Of course, if will always fall a little short with its bass response.
I think it will stop if Sony can come up with similar headphone. 10-14k with high risk that drivers may fail is not good investment.