[Christo4]

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I do not consider the MDR-1R to be sibilant headphone and certainly not as bright as many Beyers or Grados.

Hmm how about the soundstage? Is it any good for gaming? (if anyone has tried it).

 

[AdDicTiVe]

the soundstage is better than any closed headphones at it's price range for sure hehe.. 3D nuance..

 

[AdDicTiVe]

the soundstage is better than any closed headphones at it's price range for sure hehe.. 3D nuance..

 

[sofastreamer]

no way. soundstage is about the same as on the zx700 which is mediocre.

 

[Leonarfd]

Soundstage is ok, as for gaming I would rather get an closed headphone like the AKG K550 or DT70p if you can pay as much for a good closed headphone with above average soundstage to be closed. They are engaging for gaming, but I would not have used it for competive fps gaming.

 

[Christo4]

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Soundstage is ok, as for gaming I would rather get an closed headphone like the AKG K550 or DT70p if you can pay as much for a good closed headphone with above average soundstage to be closed. They are engaging for gaming, but I would not have used it for competive fps gaming.

Yeah I'd like the akg K550 for gaming as well, but i have heard people complaining about the treble and i am quite sensitive to sibilance. I don't listen at a high volume so that isn't the problem.

 

[Leonarfd]

They are fatiguing if you are that kinda person who dont like the sparkly highs. I never had any problems with the akg, but my wife couldnt listen to them for a long time.

As for the Sony they are much more relaxing to listen to, sometimes you dont want to analyze everything in the songs then these really shine.

 

[Christo4]

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They are fatiguing if you are that kinda person who dont like the sparkly highs. I never had any problems with the akg, but my wife couldnt listen to them for a long time.

As for the Sony they are much more relaxing to listen to, sometimes you dont want to analyze everything in the songs then these really shine.

Yeah i really don't understand what's so enjoyable about sparkly highs. I like it in classical since it doesn't disturb me, but female vocals sound like someone's scratching my ear drums whenever there's an S. Reason why i hate my DT880...

 

[blueangel2323]

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Yeah i really don't understand what's so enjoyable about sparkly highs. I like it in classical since it doesn't disturb me, but female vocals sound like someone's scratching my ear drums whenever there's an S. Reason why i hate my DT880...

Hmm I think we have very different ideas of what "sparkly highs" mean. What you just described I would call "sibilance," which is a problem when you have boosted lower treble (around 7-10k). To me, "sparkle" is when treble is nicely extended (above 12-16k), which you can hear mostly in metallic percussion instruments like cymbals and especially triangles. It's a matter of naturally and flatly extended vs. superficially boosted but rolled off at the very top.
 
I like sparkly but not sibilant highs.

 

[Christo4]

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Hmm I think we have very different ideas of what "sparkly highs" mean. What you just described I would call "sibilance," which is a problem when you have boosted lower treble (around 7-10k). To me, "sparkle" is when treble is nicely extended (above 12-16k), which you can hear mostly in metallic percussion instruments like cymbals and especially triangles. It's a matter of naturally and flatly extended vs. superficially boosted but rolled off at the very top.
 
I like sparkly but not sibilant highs.

Well i don't get disturbed when i listen to classical music or rock/acoustic (why i love my grado's) but when there are female vocals sometimes the 12-16k annoys me because when i use my eq to tone it down there really is an improvement.

 

[Leonarfd]

Hmm I think we have very different ideas of what "sparkly highs" mean. What you just described I would call "sibilance," which is a problem when you have boosted lower treble (around 7-10k). To me, "sparkle" is when treble is nicely extended (above 12-16k), which you can hear mostly in metallic percussion instruments like cymbals and especially triangles. It's a matter of naturally and flatly extended vs. superficially boosted but rolled off at the very top.
 
I like sparkly but not sibilant highs.

 
Spot on what I meant with the highs, and for female vocals it is in the mids. And the mdr-1r have a little push in the mids so. But also for some a sparkly highs can be to much, some just dont prefer to have the higs so forward and prefer the laid back signatures instead. But for sibiant headphones most of us I bet keep it away from our buying list.

 

[Craigster75]

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Spot on what I meant with the highs, and for female vocals it is in the mids. And the mdr-1r have a little push in the mids so. But also for some a sparkly highs can be to much, some just dont prefer to have the higs so forward and prefer the laid back signatures instead. But for sibiant headphones most of us I bet keep it away from our buying list.

IMO, Momentum has more sibilance than the MDR-1R.

 

[Christo4]

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Spot on what I meant with the highs, and for female vocals it is in the mids. And the mdr-1r have a little push in the mids so. But also for some a sparkly highs can be to much, some just dont prefer to have the higs so forward and prefer the laid back signatures instead. But for sibiant headphones most of us I bet keep it away from our buying list.

I dunno, when i eq every other freq except the last 3 i don't see any difference. BUT i know that my ears are weird so there's that.
But on topic i think i'm going to try the MDR-1R to see how they are if you guys say that they are good. I just hope that they have more soundstage than my Senn HD 380 Pro so that they are a bit better in gaming.

 

[Andrew_WOT]

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no way. soundstage is about the same as on the zx700 which is mediocre.

Didn't have a chance to audition zx700 but I've found MDR-1R sounstage quite expansive for that size closed phones.
Definitely not ear to ear Momentum experience and bigger than K271S.

 

[Katun]

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Out of what, portable? Haven't experienced that out of desktop setup, always pretty well controlled, a bit loose but never overwhelming.
Have you listened unmodded Denon/Fostex?

 
An unmodded Denon as in something like the D2000 or D600? Sure have. Both still have more midbass control than the MDR-1R.
 
Nope. I've used them out of many sources. They simply don't sound good at louder volumes.