Sony has new headphones, MDR-1R
Sep 5, 2012 at 10:17 PM Post #152 of 2,773
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i am somewhat a sony fanboy but i think most sony models are mediocre =(

 
I think their main strength is IEMs. Headphones are definitely a bit hit and miss.
 
Sep 5, 2012 at 11:44 PM Post #153 of 2,773
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I think their main strength is IEMs. Headphones are definitely a bit hit and miss.

Sadly that is the case nowadays... How I wish they'd make a reproduction of the R10...
 
Sep 6, 2012 at 3:59 AM Post #154 of 2,773
I share the same sentiments. Every time they announce something new, i get all hyped up, only to be let down again and again, but i tell myself, its okay, lets see how they improve, but there's only so many times one can give chances. 

I hope to see them come back with the energy and innovation they had 10, 15 years ago.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 7:39 PM Post #157 of 2,773
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Seconded, the beauty of HF indeed!

 
Looks like he beat Jude to the punch on that one. 
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Seems like the MDR-1R is ready for the battle of the new portable headphones.
 
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Just to let you all know (again) - the entire SONY MDR-1R Series is in the Closed Mid-Fi Portable Battle 2012.
 
Drop by with your thoughts - and provide reviews once you get yours!

 
I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that...

Oh BTW, maybe the MDR-1R should be in some kind of closed, mid-fi portable battle thing.  Yeah, I know it sounds crazy, but maybe someone can look into it.  Just a thought...
 
Sep 14, 2012 at 7:29 AM Post #160 of 2,773
Digging into the differences of the phones in this range, I noticed some numbers in http://ipaper.ipapercms.dk/Sonyshop/DK/MDR1R/

MDR-1R: 1500 mW capacity, 40 mm HD driver unit, 4-80 000 Hz, 105 db/mW, 48 Ohm MDR-1RNC, 100mW capacity, 50 mm driver unit, 5-24 000 Hz, 103 db/mW, 51 Ohm


MDR-1RBT seem to share pretty much the same properties as the MDR-1R. Anyone mind explaining if this means that the NC phones are less capable? Might consider picking up the BT phones instead, though I guess I would miss the NC on buses and trains.
 
Sep 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM Post #161 of 2,773
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Digging into the differences of the phones in this range, I noticed some numbers in http://ipaper.ipapercms.dk/Sonyshop/DK/MDR1R/  
MDR-1R: 1500 mW capacity, 40 mm HD driver unit, 4-80 000 Hz, 105 db/mW, 48 Ohm MDR-1RNC, 100mW capacity, 50 mm driver unit, 5-24 000 Hz, 103 db/mW, 51 Ohm
 
MDR-1RBT seem to share pretty much the same properties as the MDR-1R. Anyone mind explaining if this means that the NC phones are less capable? Might consider picking up the BT phones instead, though I guess I would miss the NC on buses and trains.

Wow, the NC version sucks... its harder to drive, has a crappier freq. range, and an even larger driver, which typically means lots and lots of bass... and nothing else.
 
I imagine the NC version sounds like a pair of Beats. Maybe worse. If that's even possible.
 
Sep 14, 2012 at 12:46 PM Post #162 of 2,773
Since when did bigger driver mean bigger bass? 
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 Let's see now XB1000 - 70mm, XB700, 50mm, XB500 - 40mm and in bass they go in the order big, bigger, biggest. 
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 In headphone world a 40mm driver can already output 15dB bass boosts, which is probably not even the physical driver limit but the limit at which the sound engineers feels "yea no use to go bigger than this even if geared towards bassheads".
 
Sep 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM Post #163 of 2,773
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Since when did bigger driver mean bigger bass? 
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 Let's see now XB1000 - 70mm, XB700, 50mm, XB500 - 40mm and in bass they go in the order big, bigger, biggest. 
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 In headphone world a 40mm driver can already output 15dB bass boosts, which is probably not even the physical driver limit but the limit at which the sound engineers feels "yea no use to go bigger than this even if geared towards bassheads".

The likelihood that Sony put as much quality into these drivers as possible is slim to none. Larger drivers make producing bass easier. 
 
The XB1000 has the most (and best) bass of all 3. The 50mm driver from the R1NC is almost certainly bassier than the 40mm in the standard R1.
 
Sep 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM Post #165 of 2,773
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That's like saying a K701 or KNS-8400 is bound to have more bass than a DT1350.

Incomparable because the K701 is open and the 1350 is closed.
 

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