Songs from a killer's point of view

Oct 24, 2005 at 10:42 PM Post #46 of 74
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Originally Posted by gratefulshrink
Sure, sure.
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I really was listing the one by the Dead, but then I stumbled across the Cave version.
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Oh yea, I get it now! Sometimes smilies don't always mean exactly what I think they mean
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How bout the Clash version on London Calling? Always loved that one. Not my words ...

"Wrong 'Em Boyo" tells the true story of Stagger Lee, a late 19th century St Louis hustler, who shot a man dead in an argument about a hat. Over the course of the next hundred years, 'Stack' Lee Shelton-Stack O'Lee-StaggerLee-Staggerlee became the 'mack (from maquereau, the French term for pimp) rapper archetype; as his story went from chain gang chant, through the blues, jazz, folk, soul and reggae. The Clash's 70s ska version is a cover of the Rulers' reggae 'Stagger Lee', corresponding with the Two-tone ska revival of the Specials and Madness.
 
Oct 24, 2005 at 11:21 PM Post #48 of 74
Heavens to Betsy's Terrorist

But that's more of a hunted-turned-hunter song.


PJ Harvey's A Perfect Day Elise


That's all I have now.

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Bikini Kill's White Boy?

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I don't know.
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Oct 25, 2005 at 12:06 AM Post #49 of 74
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Originally Posted by ricardo diaz
PJ Harvey's A Perfect Day Elise


Wow, what a great song! There's a couple songs on that album that are apparently based loosely on JD Salinger stories, that one "A Perfect Day for Bananafish". Nice call Ricardo! Wish I was listening to Is This Desire? right now, in fact
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Oct 25, 2005 at 12:32 AM Post #51 of 74
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Originally Posted by Davey
"Wrong 'Em Boyo" tells the true story of Stagger Lee, a late 19th century St Louis hustler, who shot a man dead in an argument about a hat. Over the course of the next hundred years, 'Stack' Lee Shelton-Stack O'Lee-StaggerLee-Staggerlee became the 'mack (from maquereau, the French term for pimp) rapper archetype; as his story went from chain gang chant, through the blues, jazz, folk, soul and reggae. The Clash's 70s ska version is a cover of the Rulers' reggae 'Stagger Lee', corresponding with the Two-tone ska revival of the Specials and Madness.


Good music history lesson.

Traditional songs are great -- they can really let the artist shine through.
 
Oct 25, 2005 at 12:42 AM Post #52 of 74
Hey, the original post asked about songs "sung from a killer's point of view." I took this to mean a song sung in the first person (e.g. "I killed somebody"). A lot of the songs suggested are not sung in the first person. For example, "Hey Joe" is sung by somebody who's talking to the killer. "Jeremy," "Janie's Got a Gun," "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and others are sung in the third person (e.g. "he killed somebody").
 
Oct 25, 2005 at 1:59 AM Post #53 of 74
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Originally Posted by bjjp2
Hey, the original post asked about songs "sung from a killer's point of view." I took this to mean a song sung in the first person (e.g. "I killed somebody"). A lot of the songs suggested are not sung in the first person. For example, "Hey Joe" is sung by somebody who's talking to the killer. "Jeremy," "Janie's Got a Gun," "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and others are sung in the third person (e.g. "he killed somebody").


But but but ... Quote:

Originally Posted by iBunny
I'd also welcome suggestions of songs about murder that aren't necessarily sung from the killer's point of view (like Somebody Got Murdered by The Clash).

Any help appreciated!



 
Oct 25, 2005 at 5:14 AM Post #54 of 74
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Originally Posted by atomic
Great idea for a CD theme! I'm also doing a CD club with some friends, no one's had that idea yet!


That's just my twisted mind at work, atomic!

I've got another theme I want to put into a playlist. I'll put that in a separate topic post.

All you guys have given such great suggestions, I really appreciate it. Keep 'em coming!
 
Oct 25, 2005 at 5:17 AM Post #55 of 74
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Originally Posted by Davey
"Wrong 'Em Boyo" tells the true story of Stagger Lee, a late 19th century St Louis hustler, who shot a man dead in an argument about a hat. Over the course of the next hundred years, 'Stack' Lee Shelton-Stack O'Lee-StaggerLee-Staggerlee became the 'mack (from maquereau, the French term for pimp) rapper archetype; as his story went from chain gang chant, through the blues, jazz, folk, soul and reggae. The Clash's 70s ska version is a cover of the Rulers' reggae 'Stagger Lee', corresponding with the Two-tone ska revival of the Specials and Madness.


Hey Davey -- thanks for this bit of info. "Wrong 'Em Boyo" is one of my favorite Clash tunes...

I smell a potential CD theme: songs inspired by Stagger Lee.
 
Oct 25, 2005 at 5:25 AM Post #56 of 74
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Originally Posted by bjjp2
Hey, the original post asked about songs "sung from a killer's point of view." I took this to mean a song sung in the first person (e.g. "I killed somebody"). A lot of the songs suggested are not sung in the first person. For example, "Hey Joe" is sung by somebody who's talking to the killer. "Jeremy," "Janie's Got a Gun," "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and others are sung in the third person (e.g. "he killed somebody").


bjjp2, you are correct. I was really looking for songs sung in the first person. But I wasn't sure that there would be enough to fill a CD (at least from my collection). That's why I also asked for songs about murder which could be in the third person.

Apparently, I was waayyy wrong about not having enough to fill a CD with the original theme.

All suggestions of songs in the first and third person are welcome. This is a great reference and turning into cool kinda game.
 
Oct 25, 2005 at 5:54 AM Post #57 of 74
This is an interesting one... off the top of my head...

Cypress Hill - "How I Could Just Kill A Man"
Ozzy Osbourne - "No More Tears" and "Shot In The Dark"
Metallica - "Disposable Heroes" (sorta counts, since it covers soldiers having to kill)
Revolting Cocks - "In The Neck"
 
Oct 25, 2005 at 2:41 PM Post #59 of 74
I'm too lazy to re-read the entire thread, but has anybody mentioned Cortez the KIller (N. Young)?

It takes us in a political/historical perspective, but why not?

I had also thought of Kill the Poor (Dead Kennedys), but I figured it was too far off topic.
 

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