[Chesus]

Hi, i currently own a pair of Sennheiser HD 595. These are some beautiful headphones that has revelated me to a whole new dimension of bass. These phones are really exquisite when it comes to acoustic sounds, but when entering the area of electronic music i find the treble to be too soft, i want it to pack a punch. So i wanted to ask you guys/gals about a couple of things.

Is this the construction of the headphones and is it unchangeable?

Does the 650/600 sound similar? (i.e soft treble/smooth highs)

What headphones would you recommend for my preference? (Accurate bass and strict/hard treble)
I do not want the sound to be refined, i want it to be raw: pure and "true"

What is the reason for this smooth sound, is it adjusted to be this way as in sennheiser aimed to achieve this sound? -I guess so because as i said these are the best headphones by far for acoustics

And lastly i apologize for any miss-interpretations; if i misunderstood any of these expressions and use them in the wrong way

Note: As i am currently only but a student i cant afford the absolute high-end

PS: Could this effect be related to inadequate amplifying? -Im plugging the directly to my PC but the sound has an incredible clarity so i suspect that it doesnt have a relation to this, plus i can crank up the volume till i go def.

 

[Shoewreck]

Sennheisers are known for their "darker" or "veiled" sound signature. You may try AKG K701 or Beyerdynamic DT880 for a brighter sound.

 

[TopPop]

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Originally Posted by Chesus /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hi, i currently own a pair of Sennheiser HD 595. These are some beautiful headphones that has revelated me to a whole new dimension of bass. These phones are really exquisite when it comes to acoustic sounds, but when entering the area of electronic music i find the treble to be too soft, i want it to pack a punch. So i wanted to ask you guys/gals about a couple of things. Is this the construction of the headphones and is it unchangeable? Does the 650/600 sound similar? (i.e soft treble/smooth highs) What headphones would you recommend for my preference? (Accurate bass and strict/hard treble) I do not want the sound to be refined, i want it to be raw: pure and "true" What is the reason for this smooth sound, is it adjusted to be this way as in sennheiser aimed to achieve this sound? -I guess so because as i said these are the best headphones by far for acoustics And lastly i apologize for any miss-interpretations; if i misunderstood any of these expressions and use them in the wrong way

I find that the treble on my HD-600s is a tad rolled-off... "smooth highs", if you will... the detail is there in the upper registers, just at a lower volume. I like this. A lot.

I used to own Beyer DT-880s, and got rid of them because they have the sound signature it seems you're looking for, which I didn't like after awhile. They definitely have strict/hard treble, that's for sure. They may be right up your alley!

 

[nhat_thanh]

I found the HD595 have a harsh, slightly bright treb and somewhat distant.
I don't like it at all really

 

[Shoewreck]

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Originally Posted by Chesus /img/forum/go_quote.gif Im plugging the directly to my PC but the sound has an incredible clarity so i suspect that it doesnt have a relation to this, plus i can crank up the volume till i go def.

Do you have a sound card or just use integrated audio? A decent sound card and a headamp may give you an incredible incredible increase of clarity.

 

[Snake]

I believe you might find a number of Grados with the sound signature you are looking for. The RS series for sure, a more "true" presentation IMHO than the Senns, plus possibly a number of other series.

 

[oldson]

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Originally Posted by nhat_thanh /img/forum/go_quote.gif I found the HD595 have a harsh, slightly bright treb and somewhat distant. I don't like it at all really

sorry this is off topic.
where did you get your ad2000's?
ta

 

[Snake]

Oh, BTW

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Originally Posted by Chesus /img/forum/go_quote.gif What is the reason for this smooth sound, is it adjusted to be this way as in sennheiser aimed to achieve this sound?

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: After years of selling high-end audio, I find the most popular sound to be "romantic": a slight softening of the presentation, a step back from the orchestra pit, a warmth added to the lower midrange / upper bass response. Sennheiser simply went after the fattest target of the market; this could be called "Good Business".

 

[Uncle Erik]

Try Grados, the Beyerdynamic DT8800 or the Sony MDR-SA5000. Of those, I think the SA5000 is best for electronic music.

 

[Chesus]

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Originally Posted by Shoewreck /img/forum/go_quote.gif Do you have a sound card or just use integrated audio? A decent sound card and a headamp may give you an incredible incredible increase of clarity.

Im using integrated audio -are you sure about this? cause i already experience a fantastic clarity as it is so i thought that wasnt it. Could you recommend any cheap headamps and/or soundcards?

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Originally Posted by nhat_thanh /img/forum/go_quote.gif I found the HD595 have a harsh, slightly bright treb and somewhat distant. I don't like it at all really

I think that defines my opinion quite well, although i dont think its harsh, but distant.
Wish it was more present.

Thank you for all your answers, but as of my current status as a student my economy unfortunately doesnt allow for the absolute high-end.. i should have said this in the first post

btw guys, what about AKG phones in this particular area?

 

[apatN]

The highs on the 595s were not at all smooth to me. They struck me as hard and clear.

 

[majkel]

The HD595's trebles are "out of focus". DT880, SR325i or Sony MDR-SA5000 will work.

 

[Shoewreck]

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Originally Posted by Chesus /img/forum/go_quote.gif Im using integrated audio -are you sure about this? cause i already experience a fantastic clarity as it is so i thought that wasnt it. Could you recommend any cheap headamps and/or soundcards?

I'm pretty sure. I'm using 1212M and a DIY amp (CMoy-like, based on AD797) and don't care for integrated audio. Check headamp and source section for more options.

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btw guys, what about AKG phones in this particular area?

I'm a big AKG fan. I'm not very competent in electronic music, but, say, Shpongle sounds great with my K501. But beware of K501 having a weird undeep bass in stock state, so K701, K601 or at least K501 with K701 pads would be a safer choice.

 

[KevM2]

You can get more piercing highs if you want. The Senn, in stock form are 'laid-back,' but they can become trebly if you put the right rig around them. You could get your headphones recabled and interconnects as well using silver based solutions. There was a lot more treble detail after I used the Excalibur interconnects, which is silver based. But then again, you need to get an amp first.

You could try out a new set of headphones such as the K701s for your treble needs. However, you may question where the bass went. Plus, they require a lot of juice, so they definitely won't be getting their potential without an amp.

Look into getting an amp first. What is your budget?

 

[Shoewreck]

Welcome to Head-Fi, Chesus, and sorry about your wallet.