Jun 13, 2022 at 1:55 PM Post #21,871 of 23,881
I think the Shure 846 images brilliantly however it’s becoming more and more obvious newer generation iems are pulling away in soundstage. Newer generation iems can have a 3D holographic soundstage which is the only area I think the 846 falls back on.
Soundstage and high treble extension.
If they address these two with the se846 mkII they will destroy the competition at that price range.
 
Jun 13, 2022 at 3:10 PM Post #21,873 of 23,881
The 846 is bass and mid forward and as soon as you change it and give it detailed sparkly highs it stops being what it is. The focus will no longer be on the bass and mids.
I am long familiar with this argument.
But lower treble on se846 is also quite forward.
I get some sibilance eg with some sources.
So re-tuning the highs can be done hopefully without messing up the whole signature.
But again this is my opinion.
 
Jun 13, 2022 at 3:39 PM Post #21,874 of 23,881
Agree on the treble extension/detail. But always thought the soundstage was great for what it is.
 
Jun 13, 2022 at 4:41 PM Post #21,875 of 23,881
Agree on the treble extension/detail. But always thought the soundstage was great for what it is.
I would of agreed with you once upon time but I think newer generation iems have pulled away in terms of soundstage by a large margin. Perhaps they have not equalled all the things the 846 does really well... but soundstage is certainly not all that holographic on the 846 although it images great. It’s certainly a more intimate iem in terms of soundstage. Localisation of instruments is a bit of a weak point on the 846 especially in regards to depth. Instruments don’t seem to inhabit a space of their own. Reverb tales aren’t replicated with realism and I’m not sure it can be achieved without extending the treble and producing more air.

Don’t want to sound like I’m knocking the 846. It’s my go to and listen to it everyday and would buy it again in a heartbeat. Also nothing is yet to touch the 846 in terms of fit and isolation in my opinion.
 
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Jun 17, 2022 at 4:36 AM Post #21,877 of 23,881
in terms of fit and isolation in my opinion.
Yeah ok this I agree man. Actually the more I listen to other earphones the more I feel like the mid-highs are quite coloured. Am I the only 1 with this feeling lol
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 6:08 AM Post #21,878 of 23,881
There’s a roll off for sure but that makes them more musical than analytical - although timbre and imaging is still first class. I think they make great stage monitors too. You can turn them up without encountering piercing highs. I have other iems that are very detailed in the highs but can’t listen to them loud - this isn’t because I want to listen to them loud but because I want more bass or mids - this becomes especially true for electronic music. For me the the highs have near perfect level. The issue is more about extension.
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 7:12 AM Post #21,879 of 23,881
My only complaint was that it was a bit hard to attach to the mmcx connectors and take them off.
That is a perennial complaint! ;-)

I found that (if you have even 1/8" of fingernails at least) pinching the fingernails of the thumb and index fingers of both hands between the connectors makes them pop apart with no pulling or struggling. The thickness of the two fingernails is enough to separate the connectors adequately for them to release their hold and separate. Effortlessly!

Terry
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 7:17 AM Post #21,880 of 23,881
I think they make great stage monitors too. You can turn them up without encountering piercing highs.
They are the ultimate stage monitors - and that application definitely makes the case for the stiff wire shapable ear hooks as well!

I've done about 400 live musical performance shows using them. That the click track does not blow out my eardrums while I can still hear the music and bass is a tremendous benefit. I also use them in the recording studio for everything from voiceovers to soundtrack compositions.

And then I get to use them for hours every day just for enjoyment, too!

Terry
 
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Jun 17, 2022 at 11:18 AM Post #21,881 of 23,881
Silly question and probably discussed ad nauseam before, but what's everyone's preferred safest and quickest way to clean the SE846 nozzle? Disassembling and rinsing the nozzle is laborious and wears down the rubber gasket. Paperclip or safety pins feel clunky. There's gotta be a better way!
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 11:24 AM Post #21,882 of 23,881
Silly question and probably discussed ad nauseam before, but what's everyone's preferred safest and quickest way to clean the SE846 nozzle? Disassembling and rinsing the nozzle is laborious and wears down the rubber gasket. Paperclip or safety pins feel clunky. There's gotta be a better way!
Mine came with a little tool. Plastic handle with a loop of wire. Saying that, I don’t use it as I use the Shure comply tips that have a filter in them to stop anything getting in.
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 12:27 PM Post #21,884 of 23,881
Silly question and probably discussed ad nauseam before, but what's everyone's preferred safest and quickest way to clean the SE846 nozzle? Disassembling and rinsing the nozzle is laborious and wears down the rubber gasket. Paperclip or safety pins feel clunky. There's gotta be a better way!
I also use the little black-handled tool with the tiny wire loop on it.
A straight pin would work fine. Just be careful.

Terry
 
Jun 17, 2022 at 12:59 PM Post #21,885 of 23,881
The blue filter foams sit close to the metal nozzle tip so not sure why it would need cleaning unless you’ve removed the foams.
Waxy ears, my friend. Waxy ears. You can clean everyday, but it don't matter. Wax gonna wax.
I also use the little black-handled tool with the tiny wire loop on it.
A straight pin would work fine. Just be careful.

Terry
Shure stopped including this tool and explicitly tell people to disassemble the nozzle for cleaning now instead. 😢
 
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