Shure SE530 vs Klipsch Custom 3

[Spyro]

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Originally Posted by BloodSugar00 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Cool! As I said I have no hands-on experience myself, as I don't have and have never owned an ipod (though I've listened to them on several ocassions), only that I've read that ppl find the se530's and ipod to have bad synergy. Also, as I'm sure you're aware, many pan the EQ facilities on the ipod so you using them comes as a little bit of a surprise. Each to their own though, hey! You never know how you'll find something personally til you try it

I think SE530 +Ipod on "ROCK" EQ is too bass heavy (I think many people default to this EQ setting). Some other poster here pointed out a while back that switching to "Electronica" setting with SE530 is a really nice improvement and I totally agree. It tames the bass down a tad without losing anything else. Some might still find the bass heavy but I like it. I found the setting an improvement with TFPro's as well.

 

[BloodSugar00]

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Originally Posted by Spyro /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think SE530 +Ipod on "ROCK" EQ is too bass heavy (I think many people default to this EQ setting). Some other poster here pointed out a while back that switching to "Electronica" setting with SE530 is a really nice improvement and I totally agree. It tames the bass down a tad without losing anything else. Some might still find the bass heavy but I like it. I found the setting an improvement with TFPro's as well.

Intersting. As I've said, cos I don't own an ipod nor have owned one, this hasn't entered my periphery. It just wouldn't, obviously, lol! Its useful to bear in mind though, if I ever do invest in an ipod in the future (their massive memory capacity is attractive!). Thanks for sharing this nugget of information.

 

[FYJX]

Spanish, i have tried so many earphones. I've tried, j-jays, d-jays, q-jays, UESF3, UESF5EB, UESF5P, TF10P, Shure se310, 420, 530, UM1, UM2, KC2, KC3. I can tell you that from my experience with music, and my other colleagues in audio engineering. We all agreed that the Se530 and TF10p were the most detailed, robust, and top of them all overall. Se530 had better mid's and lows, where the TF10P had better highs. The Se420, KC3, and UM2 came next, due to the fact that the Se420 produces less detail than the 530, Um2 puts out better bass but a bit short on highs, and KC3 was slightly more detailed and rich to the Um2, but didn't make it to the Se530 or TF10P. Next came Q-jays and UESF5P, why? the Q-jays were good overall for all kinds of music vs the UESF5P, but the UESF5P BLEW the Q-jays away at rock, metal, and Jazz. Overall Both of these earphones are fantastic, but they just don't compare to the detail, sound reproduction, and Frequency Range the se420, 530, TF10P, UM2, and KC3 produces. And don't just say "based not only on my opinion", that doesn't render that your opinion is not biased. Cause obviously, it is. reason? EarphoneSolution, Earphone experts for 7 years, and have been testing non-stop to strive for the perfect company, and earphones that reach their HIGHEST standards of sound quality has declared that the TF10P, Se530, and UM2 as the top three best Universal-Fit earphones you can buy with money. Se420 is in Second. Why Doesn't EarphoneSolution even though they make great earphones? it's because Thought they might be FANTASTIC earphones, they just don't reach the high-standards that they have. Why did the UESF5P make it then? because ultimate Ears Specially made that Super Fi 5 Pro for metal, jazz, and rock...and guess what, That's what they fulfill, though they might not be the best for other music, they are extremely good for the kind of music they were made for. Next, CNET, the Se530 won Editors choice and Best In Show for 2006. What does this mean? this means that CNET, who's serious about reviews and products that they have specialist in shows for each category, and spends hours in the show finding the best of the best. And what? the Se530 won it. Next? myself as an audio engineer, and with my colleagues who work with me, are all extremely strict and stride for the best, we were sent 33 pairs of earphones, the Shure's "E" Series, "SE" series, Ultimate Ears "Metro Fi", "Super Fi", and "Triple Fi", Westones Um1, Um2, and upcoming Um3, Sennheisers upcoming "IE-6, IE-7, and IE-8", Q-jays "j/d/q-jays". We reviewed these earphones for a month, trying every single pair. We concluded that the UM3, Se530, TF10Pro, KC3, UM2, Se420 were the top of them all in that order with the exception of um2 and se420 was a tie, i'm sure you can answer that yourself to why that was the end result...there's only one reason if we are the ones looking for extreme sound quality...

 

[sadre]

Sorry Vril, don't try to return this thread back to your original question! it's been hijacked. You can have it back when we have flown all of its posters to the People's Republic of Spanish, where Shures simply sound bad, as any scientist can tell you.

sadre

 

[shrisha]

2 Spinish.
Did you use black olives sleaves with SE530? And fit them nicely? I own iPod Classic as well and it's absolutely impossible listen music on 80% of volume with SE530. It's hurt so much for my ears. I'm always on 50-55% max. May be that's why you got such sounding there.

P.S. Is it okey to download from that FTP some music?

 

[kloan]

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Originally Posted by Spyro /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think SE530 +Ipod on "ROCK" EQ is too bass heavy (I think many people default to this EQ setting). Some other poster here pointed out a while back that switching to "Electronica" setting with SE530 is a really nice improvement and I totally agree. It tames the bass down a tad without losing anything else. Some might still find the bass heavy but I like it. I found the setting an improvement with TFPro's as well.

It never ceases to amaze me that people here actually use the iPod/iPhone EQ when it clearly introduces very audible distortion.

Every single EQ setting I have ever tried always created some, if not a lot, of noticeable degradation in audio quality.

 

[AgainstTheGrain]

se530s hands down no comparison. i've used the custom-3 and tho they are great iems they are not in the same league as the 530s. they are $200 cheaper but the do not provide even close to the same amount of detail or separation as the SE530s do. stick with the SE530s man. now if you want to try a klipsch iem go with the image x10. those are great!

 

[Spyro]

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Originally Posted by kloan /img/forum/go_quote.gif It never ceases to amaze me that people here actually use the iPod/iPhone EQ when it clearly introduces very audible distortion. Every single EQ setting I have ever tried always created some, if not a lot, of noticeable degradation in audio quality.

What are you basing that off of? What IEM's are you pairing the Ipod with? Distortion? I have never heard any distortion with an Ipod and I listen pretty loud (75% with SE530's).

I will admit that some of the EQ settings are pretty worthless and do nothing to enhance the sound but a few are very worthy in my opinion. Having said that, a flat EQ setting is about as boring as it gets with virtually any IEM.

 

[gtp]

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Originally Posted by kloan /img/forum/go_quote.gif It never ceases to amaze me that people here actually use the iPod/iPhone EQ when it clearly introduces very audible distortion. Every single EQ setting I have ever tried always created some, if not a lot, of noticeable degradation in audio quality.

Have you heard of mp3gain? Use it. You will no longer have any distortion with EQ.

 

[hatethatgiraffe]

just by Reading across this thread quickly I think that the last person as confused as Spanish was sean Connery playing the spaniard in highlander!
Maybe he got some of those fake se530 everyone panics about getting on eBay LOL

 

[kloan]

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Originally Posted by Spyro /img/forum/go_quote.gif What are you basing that off of? What IEM's are you pairing the Ipod with? Distortion? I have never heard any distortion with an Ipod and I listen pretty loud (75% with SE530's). I will admit that some of the EQ settings are pretty worthless and do nothing to enhance the sound but a few are very worthy in my opinion. Having said that, a flat EQ setting is about as boring as it gets with virtually any IEM.

I'm basing that off of multiple different headphones and IEMs. The list would be too long to type out.

Any EQ setting distorts the audio. Whether it be a slight crackle in the highs, or slights rips in the bass.. it's not clean, ever. The rare time I noticed I could get clean sound out of some tracks using the EQ was when I used an amp.. otherwise, it always ruined the sound.

 

[luoo1984]

shure 530 is more than experience than Klipsch Custom 3

 

[lewislink]

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Originally Posted by Spanish /img/forum/go_quote.gif MAy be. But i don't think so. Becouse i used 3 model in same time and before it another two models. SCL3,5 SE310,420,530. These models have a specific but "picture of sound" is same... Yes - i'm agree with you. After Et4s (i heard) Shure realy look more powerfuul, more cmplyt... but it's .. how it's explaing?... Will tell wuth simple words Etymotic have 1 driver. Sound is more steady. W/o bass (IMHO) and with some rised hi-freq. But moró balanced. And becouse people can see "volume" Sound not filled. But very clear. Shure have 3 driver. One driver rising bass. Another driver rising hi-freq. And this 1st and 3d driver is very badly "connected" to 2d driver. They are different. And how i think (it look like for me). 2d and 3d drivers fork together somtime. And becouse guitar, violin or triangle atstart (attack) has a verry loud sound. Shure give you MORE sound than Etymotic. But Shure don't give you musik... IMHO of course. For understanding - try to hear Jays or better - Sleek. For first you will not be pleasant. Becouse after Shure there is not will be enough hi-freq. But in few minute you will understanding - middle and hi-bass filed all volume around you. And hi-freq will be enough. Only they are not will be so loud. I explain clear ?

I understood. It happens to me a lot. But since I've never heard the SE530s, I can't comment on the high frequency part. But I do believe I know what Spanish is referring to. It has to do with the crossover timing and programming. It would be a difficult task getting three drivers to play the correct parts of the music signal in such a small space and then to have them play the correct note by note. I believe Spanish is relating that the crossover frequencies are way off for the high end nature of these phones and need more serious calibration. It's apparent Spanish has a very highly tuned sense of musical hearing and can hear the inadequacies in the crossover programming.

If this is the case, a company would do well to hire Spanish as a calibrator for their multi-driver canalphones, he/she may be a naturally gifted person.

 

[andrew3199]

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Originally Posted by lewislink /img/forum/go_quote.gif I understood. It happens to me a lot. But since I've never heard the SE530s, I can't comment on the high frequency part. But I do believe I know what Spanish is referring to. It has to do with the crossover timing and programming. It would be a difficult task getting three drivers to play the correct parts of the music signal in such a small space and then to have them play the correct note by note. I believe Spanish is relating that the crossover frequencies are way off for the high end nature of these phones and need more serious calibration. It's apparent Spanish has a very highly tuned sense of musical hearing and can hear the inadequacies in the crossover programming. If this is the case, a company would do well to hire Spanish as a calibrator for their multi-driver canalphones, he/she may be a naturally gifted person.

I had the SE530's for about two weeks Had to sell them. They just did not sound right. I think I kind of get what Spanish is talking about.

 

[Spyro]

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Originally Posted by andrew3199 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I had the SE530's for about two weeks Had to sell them. They just did not sound right. I think I kind of get what Spanish is talking about.

You decided to stick with your EX71's instead? Amazing....

Spanish has a right to his opinion and even if there are crossover flaws with multi-driver IEM's it must be noted that among hundreds of audiophiles on Head-Fi the general understanding is that SE530, TFPro, UE10.-11 (which are all multi-driver) are THE BEST sounding IEM's in the world.