Klarus
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I hope Bonds doesn't make it past Hank Aaron. And I hope Pete Rose never is reinstated to baseball.
Originally Posted by Socratez /img/forum/go_quote.gif ...... With that said and back to Pete, I don't think he should get in. He lied for 14 years when everyone knew he'd done it. That's almost as bad as the betting. Then he writes a book to admit to it. Hey, if I'm going to admit to it why not make some money? He seems to exhibit the same lack of a conscience as OJ in his self-centered world and I have little respect for him. I won't even go into the felony tax evasion. He isn't genuine and doesn't deserve the honor. |
Originally Posted by floydenheimer /img/forum/go_quote.gif Racism can easily effect a game, not all teammates are the same ethnicity. What if you have a white player tipping off the other team because he doesn't like the pitcher because he's black? How about spiking a player sliding into a base? Intentionally doming someone? Maybe a manager might not play a guy because he has the wrong color skin. Racism can be just as bad or worse. I'm pretty sure Rose played to win because he wanted to win the game more than he wanted to win the bet. You can get a sense of this by the way he played the game, he played to win every day, it wasn't about money for him. I think athletes bet on their games more than most people think, just not so it's documented. Jordan has/had a gambling problem, I'm thinking he might have had some wagers on his games, possibly with other players. I'm not saying one is worse than the other, I'm just pointing out that other people have had character issues and are in the hall. If they can forgive a racist, what makes gambling so unforgivable? |
Originally Posted by Ampersand /img/forum/go_quote.gif When Barry Bonds breaks the all-time homerun record (and he will), he WILL be inducted into the HOF(maybe with a footnote). No matter what controversy surronds Bonds, the committee's hand will be forced and he WILL be in the HOF. Now, how do you justify keeping Rose out of the HOF? Are you holding gambling (against other teams) as a worse offense than taking steroids and other performance enhancing drugs? Gambling didn't improve Rose's hand-eye coordination, or his ability to record a ligitimate all-time record, or to play with the intensity that he did. Without the huge number of homeruns (assisted by steroids), Bonds would not be in the HOF. And to those who said the Hall is about integrity and being a role model: Barry is NOT a rolemodel, in fact, he makes Charles Barkley look like a saint. |
The numbers Bonds had put up before the 1999 season were luminous enough to have guaranteed him first-ballot election to the Hall of Fame. He had 411 home runs, 445 stolen bases—he is now the only "500-500" player in history—eight All-Star selections and eight Gold Glove awards. He had won three MVP awards and should have won a fourth that was given to a lesser, but less obnoxious, player. |
Originally Posted by Ice Max /img/forum/go_quote.gif One word: No |