[Shanling]

Can the UP5 use in-line microphone for voice calls?

No support for in-line microphones or controls.

 

[holsen]

Why would you keep including a defective codec into new hardware products? MQA has been independently analyzed and measured and shown to produce worse than lossless output, never mind the "studio master quality" it was falsely promising. You could've made your product more affordable if you hadn't integrated this MQA scam into it.

And that's the point, Why do scams work? Because the target customers buy them. And now that there is large pool of consumers who have bought the lie, ESS, shanling and others have to include it so as to not lose sales - the Inclusion of MQA capability has no ill effect on those of us who could care less about it.

 

[boodado]

Other than increased product price due to licensing...

 

[SGarfinkle]

Other than increased product price due to licensing...

Yes other than (maybe) that. Get over it.

 

[ClieOS]

Other than increased product price due to licensing...

Pretty sure the license already come with the DAC/amp chip by default and there shouldn't be any extra cost involved.

 

[stenog]

Pretty sure the license already come with the DAC/amp chip by default and there shouldn't be any extra cost involved.

So the chip provider did not raise the price? I bet they did! The consumer always pay for it in the end.

MQA is a scam and there's not much we can do about i. Hat's off to the creaters, it's easy money!

 

[ClieOS]

So the chip provider did not raise the price? I bet they did! The consumer always pay for it in the end.

MQA is a scam and there's not much we can do about i. Hat's off to the creaters, it's easy money!

I want to make it clear that I am not a MQA supporter myself. I do indeed believe it is making money by deceiving half-informed (*which in a way is caused by how secretive MQA has packaged and marketed its "technology") audiophiles that there is an non-existing problem that needed to be solved and MQA is the answer, which it is not.

That being said - let takes an example of ESS ES9281 vs 9280. These are essentially the same chip on the hardware level with the only difference being 9281 has the MQA digital filter built-in while 9280 comes with the normal vanilla flavor digital filters. If you buy them from Mouser today, it will cost US$9 for 9281 and US$8.25 for 9280 - In that sense, and yes, you are right that the manufacturer (and eventually the consumers) will pay more for an MQA enable chip vs. a non-MQA chip. BUT in the grand scheme of things, that extra US$0.75 cost for the MQA chip is really irrelevant to the final price of most USB DAC dongle and Bluetooth DAC/amp, unless we are talking about the super cheap one that only making a dollar or two in profit. Manufacturer will need much higher margin to survive and the cost of an MQA vs. non-MQA chip is generally not the issue. The issue is which chip is easier for them to market to their customer - or in other words, what the market is demanding.

 

[AverageEars]

Manufacturer will need much higher margin to survive and the cost of an MQA vs. non-MQA chip is generally not the issue. The issue is which chip is easier for them to market to their customer - or in other words, what the market is demanding.

This person gets it.

 

[YanaMJ]

Is it a MQA discussion or a Shanling UP 5 ?

 

[alsorkin]

Is it a MQA discussion or a Shanling UP 5 ?

Agreed that the MQA discussion here is misplaced.

 

[boodado]

... Get over it.

haha - think someone else needs a little love... "get over it" and how old are we...

 

[johnjazz]

Any options to turn OFF the bluetooth on the UP5?

 

[Shanling]

Any options to turn OFF the bluetooth on the UP5?

No

 

[johnjazz]

Playing Tidal on my UP5 whenever there is a switch between music with MQA to non-MQA, the music will stop. I tried on two different phones (Samsung and Sony) and the outcome is the same. It will be back to normal only when I disconnect/reconnect the UP5 from the phone. It will also go back to normal when I disconnect and reattached the headphones.

 

[YanaMJ]

Playing Tidal on my UP5 whenever there is a switch between music with MQA to non-MQA, the music will stop. I tried on two different phones (Samsung and Sony) and the outcome is the same. It will be back to normal only when I disconnect/reconnect the UP5 from the phone. It will also go back to normal when I disconnect and reattached the headphones.

Same for me