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[iamdone]

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Originally Posted by lindrone Could also be a matter of different soundcards... I've noticed that Emu 1212 sounds very different than when I had the m-audio revo... and I remember talking to a friend that complained about the emu 1212 not being a good match with the Sensa due to its warmness. He turned the warmness down in emu 1212's control panel to make it sound more neutral.

Well this is something I didn't think about. It could also be contributing to what I'm hearing but I still come to the same conclusion using the ipod.

I do admit that the eq setting posted are probably a bit too much. I am also not saying that's how the ue10 will actually sound. I haven't heard them yet. What I am saying is that I find the highs drop off too soon for my taste.

They are still much better than the etys and if the choice is between the sensas and the etys, definately get the sensas. Also the problem with the sensas might be considered minor (or not a problem at all) to some people. Right now, it's all I can focus on.

So far my taste are: RS-1>HD650/zu>sensas>etys>shure E5

Hopefully the ue10 will fall right behind the RS-1.

 

[Blitzula]

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Originally Posted by iamdone I'll probably be ordering the ue10 this week and then have some real answers and will be able to see how close the eq'd sensas sound to the ue10. The sensas with no eq just doesn't do it for me anymore.

I've been closely following your posts, I'm really curious to see how you like the UE10, as I believe we have similar tastes in music reproduction.

I've listened to the universal fit Sensa quite a bit now, and would like some more drive/excitement in my rock also.

 

[iamdone]

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Originally Posted by Blitzula I've been closely following your posts, I'm really curious to see how you like the UE10, as I believe we have similar tastes in music reproduction. I've listened to the universal fit Sensa quite a bit now, and would like some more drive/excitement in my rock also.

Thanks. I'll let you know.

I'm sure this just boils down to preference. The biggest eye opener was lindrone's description of the RS-1. We are at complete opposite ends of the spectrum.

 

[lindrone]

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Originally Posted by iamdone Thanks. I'll let you know. I'm sure this just boils down to preference. The biggest eye opener was lindrone's description of the RS-1. We are at complete opposite ends of the spectrum.

LOL..

Generally speaking, anyone who loved the HD650/Zu combination will tend to think RS-1 is that "complete opposite ends of the spectrum" as well

I think it might just so happened that HD650/Zu was never meant for you at all?

 

[iamdone]

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Originally Posted by lindrone LOL.. Generally speaking, anyone who loved the HD650/Zu combination will tend to think RS-1 is that "complete opposite ends of the spectrum" as well I think it might just so happened that HD650/Zu was never meant for you at all?

I guess it's all in perspective. Compared to the etys, the hd650/zu sound incredible. I still think the hd650/zu is a great headphone and still sounds incredible on everything other than rock. The RS-1 just has a more agreesive sound and is a big improvement for rock music.

The RS-1 was the only Grado I heard that was able to really compete with the hd650 in other areas. The hd650/zu does have a lusher sound as is better for classical and some slower music. Most of my music doesn't fall into that category so for my collection the RS-1 made a bigger difference.

I'm sure I could have kept the the hd650/zu for some of my music, but it didn't seem worth it and if I didn't the sell them, I don't think I would have bought the RS-1. I would have kept the RS-2 and would be missing out.

Truthfully I wish I could just wear the RS-1 on the go and be done with it but that would never happen. They let noise in and out, look very weird in public, and too expensive and delicate to wear in public.

I think I'm almost more curious about the ue10 sound that actually enjoying them. I just have to know what they sound like. After this purchase, I swear I'm done. I'll post a quick summary and then ban myself from this place. I can't afford this anymore.

 

[boodi]

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Originally Posted by Zanth I just need to get in touch with Sensaphonics to get a list of audiologists in my area.

incredible..
i got in touch with sensaphonic customer care , asking for the order process for eventually ordering the canalphones and they -promptly- answered me " sorry , but in your area we don't have any audiologist" ... i found this a quite weird answer from them , they got me kind of surprised ..
what to say .. I'm not really living in a lost island .. I'm in Europe...

 

[lindrone]

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Originally Posted by iamdone I think I'm almost more curious about the ue10 sound that actually enjoying them. I just have to know what they sound like. After this purchase, I swear I'm done. I'll post a quick summary and then ban myself from this place. I can't afford this anymore.

LOL!!!!!

Man.. I swear I tell myself the same thing every other day... I swore I'm done and I don't need to buy anymore... Well, I haven't purchased that much in terms of headphones, but now I've got a couple of amps with even more on the way!!!!

Why do I need 4 amps for one pair of headphone?!!!! *Shrug*...

Sure doesn't help I started picking up other expensive hobby as well (want to get a new road bike.. and got a DSLR camera.. which means I have to buy more lenses..).

 

[iamdone]

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Originally Posted by boodi incredible.. i got in touch with sensaphonic customer care , asking for the order process for eventually ordering the canalphones and they -promptly- answered me " sorry , but in your area we don't have any audiologist" ... i found this a quite weird answer from them , they got me kind of surprised .. what to say .. I'm not living in a lost island I'm in Europe...

I found their customer great but you have to remember they still deal mostly with musicians so I guess they feel they'll travel to the nearest place or pay money to have them come to you. You can also use your own audiologist and send them directly to sensasphonics as well.

I guess I'm on my way to ultimate ears. I made an appointment for this Wednesday to get the molds done. I had to do it twice in the past, so I think I should have perfect ones this time. At least there are others who bought both, so I'm not crazy.

 

[lindrone]

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Originally Posted by boodi i found this a quite weird answer from them , they got me kind of surprised .. what to say .. I'm not living in a lost island I'm in Europe...

This is actually quite expected.. they're an US-based company... and they've got a workforce of about 15 people total including those on contract basis (full-time employees are even less). There's no way for them to travel all around the world and make sure every country has certified audiologists. Just as Plainsong, it just so happened that Michael Santucci was paying a visit to the country and was able to find some qualified local audiologists.

Not all audiologist are the same, those who has never dealt with IEM's really have no idea how to properly take impressions for them. For example, when UE referred to me a local audiologist that seriously had no clue to what they were doing (which I emailed them about, and they no longer recommend those audiologist in my area, I think).

Most audiologist knows how to take impressions for hearing aids very well, but that doesn't speak to their ability to deal with IEM's at all. The making/fitting process is very different.

Alternatively you might be able to contact Sensaphonics' official dealer in London at http://www.hearingprotection.co.uk/music.php?g=t2xs

They are an official Sensaphonics dealer, and they might have a better idea of the list of available, qualified audiologist in Europe. Even though the product is named differently, I've asked Sensaphonics about them, and they are indeed certified, and the products are exactly the same.

 

[boodi]

the main problem is right the one you aforementioned ..
I gathered some info before getting so close to get sensas , and I well imagined the audiologist have to be one that's done with iem or related or multi-use impressions to do a one-shot impression .. I hardly see myself taking the chance and finding out the right man on in a short time..
moreover I've figured out after reading some posts here that for some reason is somewhat better to deal with the USA directly then passsing from London.

 

[iamdone]

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Originally Posted by lindrone LOL!!!!! Man.. I swear I tell myself the same thing every other day... I swore I'm done and I don't need to buy anymore... Well, I haven't purchased that much in terms of headphones, but now I've got a couple of amps with even more on the way!!!! Why do I need 4 amps for one pair of headphone?!!!! *Shrug*...

I think the problem comes when the enjoyment is more about testing of different equipment than actually listening to the music. That's also why I sold the hd650/zu. I didn't want to think about the differences and try to decide which one was better for which music. I just wanted to throw on the headphones and be happy.

I also try to remember that it's really about the music. You can have the best headphones in the world but if you're listening to crap it will only sound like the best crap you ever heard. It's still crap.

 

[lindrone]

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Originally Posted by boodi moreover I've figured out after reading some posts here that for some reason is somewhat better to deal with the USA directly then passsing from London.

Sensaphonics pretty much ensured that the London dealer is making exactly what they are.. all the techniques and technology are the same... and the London dealer is very well trained in making these. I wouldn't hesitate for that reason... and the transaction should be much easier to deal with anyway due to the locality/shipping/tax/custom issues as well.

They actually make the IEM's there, in London, thus refitting, support issues should also be much more easily dealt with. I don't see any reason to hold off on them and go to the much more difficult route instead. Some people had to do that before simply because we didn't know this dealer existed at all.


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Originally Posted by iamdone I think the problem comes when the enjoyment is more about testing of different equipment than actually listening to the music. That's also why I sold the hd650/zu. I didn't want to think about the differences and try to decide which one was better for which music. I just wanted to throw on the headphones and be happy.

True... but sometimes you just want to know what a different amp sounds like.. or buy an amp for the office and for home.. so on.. so forth.. sometimes you just see a great deal that you just feel compelled to jump on.. *sigh*.. hehehe.

 

[gorman]

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Originally Posted by iamdone After this purchase, I swear I'm done. I'll post a quick summary and then ban myself from this place. I can't afford this anymore.

ROTFLMAO!!!

You are in my signature man!

 

[iamdone]

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Originally Posted by gorman ROTFLMAO!!! You are in my signature man!

Thanks. The funny thing is I've actually tried to ban myself before twice. I unsubscribe to all my threads and just stay away. Since then I've bought the SR-71, RS-1, and now the ue10. It might be cheaper to never leave. It's like an addict falling off the wagon and going on a binge.

 

[jlingo]

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Originally Posted by iamdone Thanks. The funny thing is I've actually tried to ban myself before twice. I unsubscribe to all my threads and just stay away. Since then I've bought the SR-71, RS-1, and now the ue10. It might be cheaper to never leave. It's like an addict falling off the wagon and going on a binge.

Hey supermacro, one more and then you will be set.