[rkw]

 
But, as is aid, HD6XX cable is thinner than HD650 cable.

I'd guess that it is thinner for more flexibility, since that cable was originally meant to be used with the portable Apogee Groove.

 

[music4mhell]

 

Lol, double blind. Ok will do that after full burn in of HD6XX. Right now it's only 30/40 hours burn in ...

But, as is aid, HD6XX cable is thinner than HD650 cable.

I'm not being cynical, really curious. I heard the difference once on an HD800 setup. It wasn't double blind but the difference was discernible and I had no idea what was what so it might as well been double blind. I'd like to repeat the experience but that was quite a setup from the power source up. Necessary, I don't know, I didn't get to hear the improvement of each component added. If the HD650 cables are noticeably thinner, that's a little concerning.

I said Hd6XX cable is thinner not vice versa.

 

[JWolf]

I too received the email about getting a new cable.

 

[PinkyPowers]

I said Hd6XX cable is thinner not vice versa.

Thinner does not equal inferior.

 

[Rainjam]

I have to disagree, the cables are exactly the same thickness. Whether you're talking before or after the Y-split.

 

[mbyrnes]

For the length a headphone wire is, and the amount of power going through the wire, headphone cable in almost every headphone I've ever used is COMPLETE overkill. Frankly you just don't need a thick gauge of wire for that use. I assume it's thickness is more for durability than signal transfer.

I would almost bet that Sennheiser has a standard gauge wire that must be used. Even if the cable is thinner, that does not mean the copper is thinner, only a thinner casing of plastic.

Silver versus copper is a different subject, and I've never cared to look into the qualities of each to see if there could be a difference. If there is, why does silver ALWAYS sound better?

I have no desire to spend the amount of money required to upgrade my cables. I'd much rather spend that money on things that actually do make a difference, like a better DAC or headphone.

 

[Holypal]

For the length a headphone wire is, and the amount of power going through the wire, headphone cable in almost every headphone I've ever used is COMPLETE overkill. Frankly you just don't need a thick gauge of wire for that use. I assume it's thickness is more for durability than signal transfer.

I would almost bet that Sennheiser has a standard gauge wire that must be used. Even if the cable is thinner, that does not mean the copper is thinner, only a thinner casing of plastic.

Silver versus copper is a different subject, and I've never cared to look into the qualities of each to see if there could be a difference. If there is, why does silver ALWAYS sound better?

I have no desire to spend the amount of money required to upgrade my cables. I'd much rather spend that money on things that actually do make a difference, like a better DAC or headphone.

 
For power handling, yes, mostly overkill (<1W). But for "perfect" analog signal transferring, it's another story.

 

[Andrew LB]

Noooo..... I can't believe I missed this deal. My HD580's are probably a decade old, replaced the cushions at least 5 times, and broke the band twice... and I finally decided its time for some new cans so of course I had to see whats new on Head-Fi. I may just stick it out with my 580's with the hopes they do another massdrop with the 650s. 
 
 
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Oh man... these 580's are definitely MUCH older than a decade considering i bought them not that long after joining Head-Fi.... which was in 2002. Time really does fly i guess.

 

[mbyrnes]

   
For power handling, yes, mostly overkill (<1W). But for "perfect" analog signal transferring, it's another story.

 
I would love for you to explain, with science please

 

[Holypal]

   
I would love for you to explain, with science please

 
A simple example is different resistance of cable.

 

[mbyrnes]

A simple example is different resistance of cable.

Then the cable is too thin. A proper cable will have a resistance that has no effect on sound. The only example I can think of with a shipped headphone having a blatant resistance problem was the X1. Having said that, it could have been intentional by the designer.

 

[Aegruin]

   
A simple example is different resistance of cable.

 

Then the cable is too thin. A proper cable will have a resistance that has no effect on sound. The only example I can think of with a shipped headphone having a blatant resistance problem was the X1. Having said that, it could have been intentional by the designer.

 
6XX's original 4" cable is 0.4Ohm. The cable I made from a SPC wire is 0.2Ohm. There is a noticeable difference in sound. Just for record. 

 

[kuranee]

What is your source? You probably need a decent amp. They will be a million times better than your other cans, you just need to feed them. It is worth the extra money.

Thank you, I'll try to find a better source for them

 

[Timoteo80]

Thank you, I'll try to find a better source for them

Make sure the cans are powered properly. The source is important, of course, but a good source that isn't powerful enough for the impedance of the cans won't sound much better if any.

My HD600s sounded "ehh" on my iPhone alone. They sounded "decent" when I upgraded from Rhapsody to Tidal HiFi. Sounded "really nice" when I connected to Fiio E11 portable amp. Then sounded "great" when I used my Bottlehead Crack tube amp!

Every part of the chain is important to some degree. Start with improving the weakest link in your system & eventually you'll be enjoying your headphones.

 

[peepr]

Yep they sent me a brand new HD650 to replace my dead HD6xx.

Looks like I will take the cable MD sends out and make it balanced for future use.