[grizzlybeast]

Good job sennheiser!

 

[robm321]

  Subbed.

 
 
Loved everything about the original Momentums other than their sound quality.  Too laid back and borderline muddy.
 
Hope these are an improvement in the SQ Dept.

 
Me too. Also, hope they include some treble this time. 

 

[szymonsays]

Anyone know if the larger earpads will fit the original Momentums? Would be nice to have a little extra room for my ears

 

[red12355]

That seems unlikely considering that the cups for the M2 are also bigger than the cups of the original Momentum.

 

[onebigunion]

Innerfidelity has a good summary of the changes on the site, no comments on sound quality though.

 

[HdfiChicken]

now the old momentum suffer a large price cut at amazon, cost abt $110 only .
BTW, it cost nearly $500 for the wireless version is quite expansive -_-||
（sorry for my bad english）

 

[oneway23]

$350 MSRP for the wired M2 is insane; you can get a pair of HD650s on Amazon right now for the same amount.
We're Not even talking about the wired having APTX Bluetooth.  They have bigger pads and a foldable band.

 

[HdfiChicken]

agreed , if the wireless version cost about $400, I may absoluty buy this but now I have to think twice T^T

 

[oneway23]

The Sennheiser folks are completely out of their ever-loving minds.  The wireless on-ears list for $399 and they are asking a whopping $499 for the wireless over-ears.  Balderdash, I say!

 

[Dog meat]

  $350 MSRP for the wired M2 is insane; you can get a pair of HD650s on Amazon right now for the same amount.
We're Not even talking about the wired having APTX Bluetooth.  They have bigger pads and a foldable band.

Good luck with using 650 on a bus.

 

[oneway23]

  Good luck with using 650 on a bus.

 
Of course, you'd need a portable amp in conjunction with your DAP to use the HD650, but this is not necessarily uncommon among those interested in this hobby...I do understand these cans are for the average consumer, though, for whom better sound may be but one of many factors.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the MSRP of the original Momentums was $269.95.  Are we really going to justify an $80 premium for a foldable headband and larger earcups?  When an updated model essentially replaces last year's equivalent, the newer model is usually the same price or less.

 

[haywood]

   
Of course, you'd need a portable amp in conjunction with your DAP to use the HD650, but this is not necessarily uncommon among those interested in this hobby...I do understand these cans are for the average consumer, though, for whom better sound may be but one of many factors.
 
If I'm not mistaken, the MSRP of the original Momentums was $269.95.  Are we really going to justify an $80 premium for a foldable headband and larger earcups?  When an updated model essentially replaces last year's equivalent, the newer model is usually the same price or less.

He means the 650 is an open design, there's no noise isolation which means they're not suited for mobile use. And iirc the Momentums were originally about the same list price when first introduced.

 

[red12355]

Of course, you'd need a portable amp in conjunction with your DAP to use the HD650, but this is not necessarily uncommon among those interested in this hobby...I do understand these cans are for the average consumer, though, for whom better sound may be but one of many factors.

If I'm not mistaken, the MSRP of the original Momentums was $269.95.  Are we really going to justify an $80 premium for a foldable headband and larger earcups?  When an updated model essentially replaces last year's equivalent, the newer model is usually the same price or less.

The msrp of the original momentums was also $350 (plus or minus a few cents).

 

[oneway23]

I absolutely stand corrected, then...my apologies...I guess I undervalued the premium many users place on portability.

 

[nw130d]

The HD600 and 650 has been out for a while now, upon their release date their MSRP is much higher than current pricing (also have to account for currency inflation). But I absolutely agree sound to $ value of the HD600/650 is much better than even the original Momentum. I bought the original Momentum on sale for $300 little over a year ago. At the time I did not think it was a good value in terms of sound quality for how much I payed, frankly a bit hyped IMO. I wonder the new Momentum will be another step in sound quality. If so new closed back headphones are getting very close in sound quality of HD600/650.