Once again, you need to go back and read. I wasn’t the one making claims. I was responding to unwarranted criticism made against the 800S. This isn’t a pissing contest. I don’t care if you or anyone else likes the Utopia. Good for you if you do. But to defend your reasoning for liking “said headphone”, you don’t get to pull out false claims out of thin air. Don’t respond to me again until you know what the conversation is about. I’m tired of having two separate conversations at the same time. Stay on point or move on. Because that’s what I’m doing.