[Ichos]

I cant wait for your review on OG.

I am going to review the Elex but include a Clear OG comparison.

Clear MG will be reviewed for hxosplus magazine , sooner or later.

 

[Zifeng]

I got my ifi zen dac just now. The build quality is exellent. The power is enought，for balanced cable.

I am not so sure it is far more better than dc04 or just plug in the computer

 

[Tripokaridos]

I have been reading about the various issues but as an x Clear OG owner and current Elex I have to report only the best.
And the lucky new owner of my Clear haven't reported any issues.

How does Elex compare to Clears ? Do i lose a lot ? I miss that sound.

 

[Tripokaridos]

I am going to review the Elex but include a Clear OG comparison.

Clear MG will be reviewed for hxosplus magazine , sooner or later.

Clears was amazing ... Shall i wait 1 year for the new Clears ? Or go now for less price with Drop elex ?

 

[Tripokaridos]

I got my ifi zen dac just now. The build quality is exellent. The power is enought，for balanced cable.

I am not so sure it is far more better than dc04 or just plug in the computer

With dc power is better.

 

[Ichos]

Clears was amazing ... Shall i wait 1 year for the new Clears ? Or go now for less price with Drop elex ?

That I don't know for now since I haven't experienced the new Clear MG.

BTW - Elex don't ship to the EU.

 

[hakunamakaka]

I've finally been introduced to HD6xx series and got 650 at home and honestly even though I tried hard I don't really understand why there is so much hype around them. I had hopes that they will scale insanely with OTL amp, but did see little improvement. The good thing is that they are non fatiguing and has a decent sounding vocals, but that's nearly about it. As an openback very closed in sound, subbass information missing, treble rolled off which I don't mind, but sound signature as a whole is a bit dirty poo poo. For the retail price that they go in my country I think I could find better offerings in mid-tier. Maybe hd6xx series is hyped because it has been in the market for so long and is driven by sentiments of people. I won't give up on HD650 for now, they are comfy and could be ok as a backup hp. I've seen few mods, though removing foam cover gave more detail presence, but as well brought extra dirt/roughness to the sound. Sorry for ramblings, it seems I had too high expectations for this hp.

 

[Shane D]

I've finally been introduced to HD6xx series and got 650 at home and honestly even though I tried hard I don't really understand why there is so much hype around them. I had hopes that they will scale insanely with OTL amp, but did see little improvement. The good thing is that they are non fatiguing and has a decent sounding vocals, but that's nearly about it. As an openback very closed in sound, subbass information missing, treble rolled off which I don't mind, but sound signature as a whole is a bit dirty poo poo. For the retail price that they go in my country I think I could find better offerings in mid-tier. Maybe hd6xx series is hyped because it has been in the market for so long and is driven by sentiments of people. I won't give up on HD650 for now, they are comfy and could be ok as a backup hp. I've seen few mods, though removing foam cover gave more detail presence, but as well brought extra dirt/roughness to the sound. Sorry for ramblings, it seems I had too high expectations for this hp.

It is the same headphone, AFAIK. The HD6XX's are just re-badged HD650's, but a lot cheaper.

 

[hakunamakaka]

It is the same headphone, AFAIK. The HD6XX's are just re-badged HD650's, but a lot cheaper.

In that manner there is no point for hd650 to exist now :O Well at least 650 was better than 600 for me, but I really don't see any huge scaling capabilities which I hoped for. Basically PM2 or Clears attached to my laptop wipes the floor with HD650 being attached to external dac & decent otl amp

 

[Contrails]

I've finally been introduced to HD6xx series and got 650 at home and honestly even though I tried hard I don't really understand why there is so much hype around them. I had hopes that they will scale insanely with OTL amp, but did see little improvement. The good thing is that they are non fatiguing and has a decent sounding vocals, but that's nearly about it. As an openback very closed in sound, subbass information missing, treble rolled off which I don't mind, but sound signature as a whole is a bit dirty poo poo. For the retail price that they go in my country I think I could find better offerings in mid-tier. Maybe hd6xx series is hyped because it has been in the market for so long and is driven by sentiments of people. I won't give up on HD650 for now, they are comfy and could be ok as a backup hp. I've seen few mods, though removing foam cover gave more detail presence, but as well brought extra dirt/roughness to the sound. Sorry for ramblings, it seems I had too high expectations for this hp.

Which amps have you heard them with?

I have heard them with a Crack and a WA22 and I thought it sounded really good.

 

[Tripokaridos]

That I don't know for now since I haven't experienced the new Clear MG.

BTW - Elex don't ship to the EU.

Dont ship ? I didnt know that ... So out of the question. I will wait for your review.

 

[Zifeng]

With dc power is better.

It will cost about 50 dollars, I dont want to pay for it now. It is really lucky that hd660s is easy to drive.

 

[MayaTlab]

Maybe hd6xx series is hyped because it has been in the market for so long and is driven by sentiments of people.

Nah. That's because still to this day they measure on average better than most other open over-ears out there, regardless of price, at least between 300hz and 4000-5000hz or so - and sufficiently well that anything else is at best a side-grade in that FR range.
That being said like a lot of open-ears their response below 200-300hz is highly perfectible, and above 5000hz or so individual variations because of anatomical reasons can become quite severe.
You may want to try your hand at EQing them, that's the cheapest way to get the largest dividends in SQ with these.

 

[hakunamakaka]

Which amps have you heard them with?

I have heard them with a Crack and a WA22 and I thought it sounded really good.

I've used them with Feliks Echo 2, I believe that Crack is step above than echo, but still was hoping for HD650 to open up more. In all regards the difference against my macbook headphone jack is not that big, it has better control if I crank up the volume and more smooth signature with echo. As an openback they are so intimate, treble is missing air either way i plug them to SS or OTL amp. I wouldn't mind small soundstage if 650 had clean, technically solid sound, it may be my listening habits, but I have difficulties to properly place instruments, especially with more complex music can get a muddy mess for me. For electronic as well it has to be specific to match it, bass sounds a bit wooly to me, amazingly mastered Nicolas Jar - cenizas album sounds very mediocre over hd650. though 650 do great with non complex mid-centric/acoustic music. It is forgiving for older records as well which were not produced very well

 

[Zifeng]

I've used them with Feliks Echo 2, I believe that Crack is step above than echo, but still was hoping for HD650 to open up more. In all regards the difference against my macbook headphone jack is not that big, it has better control if I crank up the volume and more smooth signature with echo. As an openback they are so intimate, treble is missing air either way i plug them to SS or OTL amp. I wouldn't mind small soundstage if 650 had clean, technically solid sound, it may be my listening habits, but I have difficulties to properly place instruments, especially with more complex music can get a muddy mess for me. For electronic as well it has to be specific to match it, bass sounds a bit wooly to me, amazingly mastered Nicolas Jar - cenizas album sounds very mediocre over hd650. though 650 do great with non complex mid-centric/acoustic music. It is forgiving for older records as well which were not produced very well

Hi, have you try HD660s?