[Sigmaaa]

The NS10 had very forward high-midrange and little bass. It was used to spot artifacts more easily.

The perfect headphone depends on the listener and on the album. For example, if an album has +7dB at 8kHz and a Beyerdinamic has +7dB in that area, too, the result will be a painful +14dB. But with a HD650 that has -7dB at 8kHz, the result will be a perfect match. But if the album is mixed with -7dB in the highs, a HD650 will make the highs disappear almost completely.

For example, I prefer to have no highs on some albums and enough on others than enough on some and too much on others, that's why I use the HD6xx series. Also, there are a lot more albums with too much highs than with too little, so I cannot put myswlf through phonic torture on a lot of albums to be able to hear the highs more clearly on the very few albums that have weak highs.

 

[LFriday]

Don't forget about frequency response of your own ears.

 

[Gigi86]

Are those worth over the 650? i Might buy them if i sell the pair of headphones i have now

 

[LFriday]

You may buy these over hd650 if you find them for about 350$ or less but only if you know how they and hd650 sound.

 

[Deftone]

Are those worth over the 650? i Might buy them if i sell the pair of headphones i have now

What music do you listen to ?

 

[bagwell359]

What has occurred to me though is that the volume people like to listen at undoubtedly must have an influence on which headphones they prefer.

So true, nobody should forget that. I've modified HFM and Senn's for myself first, and then a couple of others. One guy complained my mods only worked at low volumes. I sat with him, and he was listening at 6-7 db higher than I do. He was right, the mods were not coming through. He agreed they worked at my volumes, but he wouldn't change his listening habits.

True with speakers too. Some panels don't sound good until they get going fairly loud. A lot of bookshelf speakers sound good at low levels, esp if the tweeters are somewhat bright.

 

[DavidA]

Are those worth over the 650? i Might buy them if i sell the pair of headphones i have now

Only you can determine if they are worth it over HD650. While I really like the HD660S to me they are a bit over priced at this time since the HD650/600 are usually found under $290 and with the MassDrop HD58X at $150 and HD6XX at $200 the HD660S a hard sell to me for at this time. Note that these all sound different and its a matter of personal preference which you will like and other factors to consider are the genre(s) you like, how loud you listen and for some if you want to deal with amps/DACs.

 

[turbomustang84]

Only you can determine if they are worth it over HD650. While I really like the HD660S to me they are a bit over priced at this time since the HD650/600 are usually found under $290 and with the MassDrop HD58X at $150 and HD6XX at $200 the HD660S a hard sell to me for at this time. Note that these all sound different and its a matter of personal preference which you will like and other factors to consider are the genre(s) you like, how loud you listen and for some if you want to deal with amps/DACs.

I think over time they will come down in price but I really think I like the HD-58X better so I returned mine but if they dropped to $250 I would most likely be in just to own the last 6. Series since I have all others and the 660s is the best looking easily with the 600 being the ugliest to me

 

[Bonddam]

650 is still king and looks better.....

 

[Deftone]

In the UK HD650 is around £310 and HD660 is £380. We dont have massdrop to get an great deal like the HD6XX and if purchased from massdrop to the UK then import charges + royal mail handling fee + 20% tax would easily make it back up to the £310 HD650.

 

[DavidA]

I think over time they will come down in price but I really think I like the HD-58X better so I returned mine but if they dropped to $250 I would most likely be in just to own the last 6. Series since I have all others and the 660s is the best looking easily with the 600 being the ugliest to me

I agree that the HD660S is the best looking of the HD6 and HD600 the ugliest of series and like you I'd buy the HD660S at $250 also but not to own them all since I do like it that the HD660S sound quite good to me with most of the simple portable gear that I tried them with and doesn't have as noticeable grain like the HD58X to me.

In the UK HD650 is around £310 and HD660 is £380. We dont have massdrop to get an great deal like the HD6XX and if purchased from massdrop to the UK then import charges + royal mail handling fee + 20% tax would easily make it back up to the £310 HD650.

Feel for you, import charges, tax and other cost s^%&, I'm in almost as bad a position since many merchants will give free shipping to almost anywhere in the US except Hawaii (where I live) and Alaska. I've ordered a few items from Massdrop and after a few days they send me a notification that the item can't be shipped to Hawaii since they are too large (office chair and appliances). I got my HD650 for $280 (£214) a few years ago from Amazon, HD600 for $219 (£166) and the cheapest I've seen the HD660S is $489 (£372) so that's why I've put off getting them for now.

 

[SonyFan121]

In the UK HD650 is around £310 and HD660 is £380. We dont have massdrop to get an great deal like the HD6XX and if purchased from massdrop to the UK then import charges + royal mail handling fee + 20% tax would easily make it back up to the £310 HD650.

The import fee's to the UK when buying from Massdrop might not be a high as you think. When I bought a Fostex TH-X00 Purpleheart from Massdrop 2 years ago the import fee's only came to £80. I don't know how it will change after Brexit though, lol.

 

[nicholars]

Overall the price you see in $, is effectively the same as the end price in £.

 

[LISIANTHUS]

they are 340 USD for brand new on ebay now.

 

[pietcux]

The import fee's to the UK when buying from Massdrop might not be a high as you think. When I bought a Fostex TH-X00 Purpleheart from Massdrop 2 years ago the import fee's only came to £80. I don't know how it will change after Brexit though, lol.

After Brexit you get all headphones you ever wanted for free. That is what they promised you, right?