Uptown193
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I just wish the 598s came with a nice case like the 650s come with.
What I am still undecided about is whether to go Solid State or Tube, there have been very mixed comments. I myself am split, as I do not want to end up buying an SS that sounds anaemic, or a Tube that is overly warm.
Ideal price is c. $500, but I remain open as it will not be an immediate purchase. Thanks in advance for responses.
It's a matter of taste really, you can always go hybrid if it makes it easier for you. They say it's the best of both worlds.
I personally don't care for the sound of hybrid amps, they just don't have that special essence that I hear in pure SS or tube amps. It's like listening to a identity crisis. I personally think HD650 can sound excellent with either SS or tube. I personally do prefer tube in the end though maybe it's because of their magic glow.
Do tubes sound good from the get go, or do they have to warm up (similar to the tubes in guitar amps)
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As with pretty much every headphone, there are reports of the HD800s having different versions. The latest ones are reported to have a slightly more balanced, less treble emphasized sound. So that might explain your "vocal minority." I do applaud you on being open minded enough to go from the HD650s to the HD800s though. There are far too many people on head-fi that scurry away at the mention of "bright" or "treble" without actually giving great phones a chance. They tend to, quite naively, equate "bright" with treble peaks and sibilance. I'm pretty sure they'll never hear how butter-smooth (and non-fatiguing) treble can be on some great cans.
I'm surprised to hear you say that people recommend a tube amp for HD-650s. It used to be common wisdom that the HD-650 work best with a solid state amp because the HD-650s have a generally warmer-than-neutral signature and the midbass emphasis a lot of tube amps provide as part of their sound can provide less than stellar results. I've always preferred a SS amp for my HD-650, seems just right, if it tipped over into a darker presentation I might find it less pleasant.
Edit: Further reading shows that it's, what, a mildly colored solid state amp? Should be fine, I would think?
Anyone have some insights as to how the HD650s would mate with a Ming-Da MC84-C07 ? I listen to mostly classical ... of all genres ...
Many thanks in advance ...
Just want to welcome myself. New to head-fi. Forced to go to an apartment, and box up my Dynaudio/Bryston 2-channel system. Figured I would try some cans out. Just picked up a mint pair of HD 650's off FleaBay for $240 shipped. I plan on using the BP25DA pre-amp (integrated 44.1khz DAC) with these, which I assume will drive them sufficiently. Music source will be FLAC (Lossless ripped from CD's) from my HP MediaSmart server networked to a Squeezebox Touch with a digital coax out to the BP25DA. The Bryston DAC will be used. The music library will be accessed wirelessly with an Ipod Touch (w/ installed Squeezebox Application). Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm an audiophile, but not a snob
I confess, I've been very curious about the HD800 of late. Although the similarities between the LCD-2 and HD650 is overstated imo, it is still a relatively safe progression. I've not regretted going against the grain in the past, and I wonder what the outcome may have been if I'd gone out on a limb with the HD800.
My old (#3406) and current pair (#9311) sound identical. The low-bass versions were mostly the serial #s below 1000.
The bass was boosted since then but the treble hasn't really changed. In fact, it might have been increased near the 6KHz region.
Warm up. Doesn't take long though, and it's not like they sound bad in the beginning.
I just received my Schiit Asgard in the mail today and spent all afternoon listening to my 650s through it. My source is an Oppo BDP-83 connected directly to the Asgard via analog RCA.
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Running the Asgard through the tape monitor of my receiver took a smidge of impact away from the bass (very subtle) so I have to decide what's next for me:
1. Keep the Asgard and plug it into my Oppo for disc listening. Use my receiver's headphone jack for records and tapes.
2. Keep the Asgard in the tape monitor and use it for all music. Live with the slight loss of bass slam.
3. Return the Asgard and use the receiver only until I find an amp that's a significant improvement over the Asgard.
4. Return the Asgard and join the 21st century. Digitize all of my music and add a bunch of acronyms to my system (DAC, USB, HDMI, FLAC, etc.).
Just buy the cans first and see how it sounds with the receiver. It's true the HD650 will scale with the gear it's hooked up to, but there may be very good synergy with the Onkyo. Give it a try.
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Welcome to the 21st century! This is the Spend-Fi forum and we are all enablers. What are you waiting for?
You may also be able to unbridge your receiver's preamp from the amp like I could with my Denon and use each section alone as needed.
Or pick up one of HeadAmp's GS-1s (you'll thank me later) and a Benchmark, Stello or DacMagic dac. If you have to use USB, you're probably going to need a transport unless you go with the Benchmark.
Yes, it will cost a few bucks to do that, but the 650s scale really well.