[Hondadude85]

you mistake rolled off highs as smooth. they arent smooth just hard to hear. theres a difference.

Your entire 33 post history is just you complaining about Sennheisers. Are you that dude on YouTube who keeps posting those incessant frequency response graphs?

 

[HiFiHawaii808]

A mini setup for the HD6XX. I personally think that it is really important to get the HD650 / 6XX in order to really make further progress in this hobby. It really sets a great baseline for how a good setup should sound. Get the HD6xx and build your upgrade path along with it. It scales really well with great source gear and it will never be the bottleneck of it. The HD6XX baseline really allows you to evaluate your DACs and AMPs and identify the area for improvement and upgrades for source gear.

hear hear.

I completely agree. I am listening to them right now on my BHC and it sounds glorious with small combo jazz. The tubes I have in my tube amp cost more than the headphones.

 

[Ryno1330]

Your entire 33 post history is just you complaining about Sennheisers. Are you that dude on YouTube who keeps posting those incessant frequency response graphs?

Agree - he's a troll. But I'll bite and say that if you have an issue with hearing the highs on them then you have hearing issues. A properly driven 650 has no lack of detail in the highs. I would call them sweet though, rather than smooth .

 

[Hondadude85]

Agree - he's a troll. But I'll bite and say that if you have an issue with hearing the highs on them then you have hearing issues. A properly driven 650 has no lack of detail in the highs. I would call them sweet though, rather than smooth .

Absolutely. All 300-ohm Sennheisers need power. On my Asgard 3, which is around 610mw@300ohm, there is zero veil. Just smooth, buttery, detailed highs.

 

[Hifiearspeakers]

you mistake rolled off highs as smooth. they arent smooth just hard to hear. theres a difference.

You mistake overtly elevated treble as detail. That isn’t detail. That’s just an ice pick to the brain. There’s a difference.

 

[HiFiHawaii808]

Agree - he's a troll. But I'll bite and say that if you have an issue with hearing the highs on them then you have hearing issues. A properly driven 650 has no lack of detail in the highs. I would call them sweet though, rather than smooth .

I think we should be accurate in our descriptions of what we hear with the HD 650s. It's a glorious and warm sound signature that is great for certain styles of music like Bossa Nova jazz. Depending on the amp you use, there could be a veil covering the highs. With the right amp, you can remove most of that veil. For classical music and some vocals, the highs are better on other headphones like the HD 600s. There is insufficient detail in the highs for some types of classical music like symphony orchestra music with lots of high energy dynamic passages. Because of this, I am thinking about picking up a pair of HD 800S for classical music listening.

 

[OneOddPhoton]

Agree - he's a troll. But I'll bite and say that if you have an issue with hearing the highs on them then you have hearing issues. A properly driven 650 has no lack of detail in the highs. I would call them sweet though, rather than smooth .

Too true.

At my age I can only hear to ~14K. Even then, 650s are perfect. Although technically superior, my HiFiMan HE6se is too hot in the Treble. No contest. I consider the 650s similar in Timbre in the Highs and Mids to my Stax L700 which are extremely natural in tone.

What most people consider to be bright or warm is due to lower or mid treble peaks / dips. 3K->8K.

So...what is apparent is...each to their own...

 

[iFi audio]

A properly driven 650 has no lack of detail in the highs. I would call them sweet though, rather than smooth .

I can agree with that easily. Sweetness and presence!

 

[limaaa]

Guys, do I need to run this headphones balanced? Or any other headphones? I'm asking because I need to now should I buy amp that has balanced option or not.

Thanks!

 

[CaptainFantastic]

Guys, do I need to run this headphones balanced? Or any other headphones? I'm asking because I need to now should I buy amp that has balanced option or not.

Thanks!

Definitely not. This has been discussed at length. You can get more for your money in a single-ended format. The myth of balanced > single-ended comes from units that have both and on which balanced has more power, sounds better. A well designed single ended amp can exceed a similarly priced balanced unit (balanced requires more hardware).

Of course, some people may prefer balanced models for other reasons, aesthetics, other features, etc.

 

[limaaa]

Definitely not. This has been discussed at length. You can get more for your money in a single-ended format. The myth of balanced > single-ended comes from units that have both and on which balanced has more power, sounds better. A well designed single ended amp can exceed a similarly priced balanced unit (balanced requires more hardware).

Of course, some people may prefer balanced models for other reasons, aesthetics, other features, etc.

I was looking into Schiit Magnius and Magni3+/Heresy. So Magnius only make sense if I plan to use balanced output? Magni3+/Heresy will have enough power for HD6xx?

 

[CaptainFantastic]

@limaaa Yes, there is actually a video with Jason Stoddard from Schiit Audio where he says that SE was added to the Magnius just to have it, but that it sounds inferior to the balanced on that particular unit. It's in the four part series Schiit interview from Passion for Sound on Youtube.

See also 3:09 in this video (I am in no way affiliated with this channel, just happens to be on point to the question asked here) regarding power requirements.

For single ended, I hear the Lehmann Audio Linear and Violectric V200 work great with the 6-series. I've been using a tube amp. From the Schiit line-up, not sure, others will help you out I am sure.

 

[Brubacca]

I use a Magni Heresy with my HD6xx in my work office. So it works, Asgard 2 sounds better at my main listening station.

 

[jonathan c]

@limaaa Yes, there is actually a video with Jason Stoddard from Schiit Audio where he says that SE was added to the Magnius just to have it, but that it sounds inferior to the balanced on that particular unit. It's in the four part series Schiit interview from Passion for Sound on Youtube.

See also 3:09 in this video (I am in no way affiliated with this channel, just happens to be on point to the question asked here) regarding power requirements.

For single ended, I hear the Lehmann Audio Linear and Violectric V200 work great with the 6-series. I've been using a tube amp. From the Schiit line-up, not sure, others will help you out I am sure.

I use a Lehmann Audio Linear SE (special edition) in my amp rotations with the HD-600s. Real synergy there! Deep, full bass, midrange with body, highs with air and extension. I read that LA used Sennheisers in developing the Linear in its various configurations.

 

[dakanao]

I think we should be accurate in our descriptions of what we hear with the HD 650s. It's a glorious and warm sound signature that is great for certain styles of music like Bossa Nova jazz. Depending on the amp you use, there could be a veil covering the highs. With the right amp, you can remove most of that veil. For classical music and some vocals, the highs are better on other headphones like the HD 600s. There is insufficient detail in the highs for some types of classical music like symphony orchestra music with lots of high energy dynamic passages. Because of this, I am thinking about picking up a pair of HD 800S for classical music listening.

The treble is just so refined and neutral in emphasis, that it may be too smooth for users who are used to bright headphones or headphones that have unrefined highs