[donkeanu]

  Leather pads, nice...except aren't HE60 pads meant to flake alot?

 
does the sennheiser he-60 earpads a perfect fit to hd650??
its thicker and looks more firm so a better seal??

 

[Gilly87]

If you love the HD598 but want just a bit more bass, go for the 600s/650s. You would probably want to go up to at least an O2 or Magni for amp. The HD598 is an awesome value if you don't need the extra bass, though.
 

Well, I had to go ahead and go with the 598s as they dropped to $199 new on Amazon this AM and I couldn't pass it up Right at the price point I already had set aside and would require no additional amp purchase to properly power (currently have Fiio E17). I've heard good things about these and if they're anything like the 590s I've heard then they'll be perfect. I'm sure the upgrade itch with strike sooner or later and 650s may be in my future still. Thanks again for the insight guys.

 

[jamesino]

Generally speaking, are vocals in the midrange or treble? I know people sometimes have negative sentiments regarding the treble of the 650's, but does this mean that they think the vocals are bad? 

 

[uzi]

  Generally speaking, are vocals in the midrange or treble? I know people sometimes have negative sentiments regarding the treble of the 650's, but does this mean that they think the vocals are bad? 

 
The treble rolls off, but that largely gives the headphones a more laid back sound.  Vocals are usually in the mids, and there are few headphones as stellar as the HD650 in the mids (IMHO).

 

[Gilly87]

Well most of the vocal range comes in below 3khz, but treble can affect vocal clarity as well, especially consonant definition (think "s" and "t"). It mostly depends on preference; some people say the HD650 is a little veiled in general, but it sounds very natural to me, personally.
 
 
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  Generally speaking, are vocals in the midrange or treble? I know people sometimes have negative sentiments regarding the treble of the 650's, but does this mean that they think the vocals are bad? 

 

[JoeDoe]

Agreed

 

[HiFi1972]

  Generally speaking, are vocals in the midrange or treble? I know people sometimes have negative sentiments regarding the treble of the 650's, but does this mean that they think the vocals are bad? 

"Treble" is a consumer term for the upper frequency range. Vocal frequencies range from about 200 cycles to 3,500 cycles but then you have sibilance, which can go as high as 10,000 cycles (or 10kHz if we're talking "Hertz") in a vocal recording.
 
Sibilance happens during the recording of vocals, through improper mic'ing techniques and/or the "wrong" microphone (it's not just a matter of throwing the most expensive mic in the chain). Headphones like the 650 do well with recordings that have a bit too much sibilance on them because of the roll off in the upper freq range. In cases where you have a recording that is a little too "hot" in the upper frequency range, the 650s smooth things out a bit so these kinds of recordings will have less "bite".

 

[jamesino]

But generally speaking, most people regard the HD 650 as a good headphone if one enjoys vocals?

 

[Gilly87]

Vocals are one of my biggest priorities in a phone and I think the HD650s do really well.

But generally speaking, most people regard the HD 650 as a good headphone if one enjoys vocals?

 

[Umphrey]

Hey everyone.
I'm ready to pull the trigger and finally upgrade from my hd55s to hd650, however I am having trouble finding them at a good price. I figure I'm better off asking here than making a new thread.
 
I've called headphone.com and razordog deals, but both of them came back with prices over$400. I distinctly remember them being available for $350, just last year. Have I missed out all these deals?
 
Can anyone point me in the direction of where I should look next?
 
thanks

 

[wolfetan44]

Sennheiser has recently became very strict with prices.

 

[Gilly87]

I'd say keep an eye out for a good seller on eBay, I got mine like-new for $325.
 
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  Hey everyone.
I'm ready to pull the trigger and finally upgrade from my hd55s to hd650, however I am having trouble finding them at a good price. I figure I'm better off asking here than making a new thread.
 
I've called headphone.com and razordog deals, but both of them came back with prices over$400. I distinctly remember them being available for $350, just last year. Have I missed out all these deals?
 
Can anyone point me in the direction of where I should look next?
 
thanks

 

[Tman5293]

  Hey everyone.
I'm ready to pull the trigger and finally upgrade from my hd55s to hd650, however I am having trouble finding them at a good price. I figure I'm better off asking here than making a new thread.
 
I've called headphone.com and razordog deals, but both of them came back with prices over$400. I distinctly remember them being available for $350, just last year. Have I missed out all these deals?
 
Can anyone point me in the direction of where I should look next?
 
thanks

 
You know they typically sell for $300-$350 used here on Head-Fi in the for sale section.

 

[FangJoker]

Have you tried ebay for lightly used ones or open box ones?   If you don't mind used in good condition, you can do pretty well on ebay.  Just look for the ones used for less than a month.  Those usually go for 425 to 450.  Maybe less.

 

[JonasRas]

I have mine on sale for $375 and that price includeds shipping. They are in mint condition, and all the accessories and the original box is included.