Sennheiser HD565 appreciation and service thread
Feb 10, 2021 at 5:46 AM Post #91 of 154
I purchased mine after a two hour session listening to multiple headphones in a local corner Hi-Fi shop (any one remember those?). I narrowed my purchase down to the (at the time) top of the line HD580's, and the HD565's, and finally walked out with the HD565's. Although the HD580s were more expensive, cost was not one of the deciding factors (they were a gift).
 
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Feb 23, 2021 at 12:16 PM Post #92 of 154
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These sound amazing in balanced mode. Using a Shanling UP4 which has more than enough power to run the HD565
 
Jun 8, 2021 at 10:08 AM Post #93 of 154

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Sep 6, 2021 at 5:30 PM Post #94 of 154
Might be developing an obsession with refurbing and collecting these fine cans....

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Acquired 2 further sets of tired-looking HD565's recently for Euro60 each.
After inspecting collecting from the seller the first order of business was to completely disassemble, clean and decontaminate them.
Fortunately the driver capsules were in tip top condition and set aside for individual attention while I filled the kitchen sink with warm soapy water.
The pads were removed and binned.
After a good soak and agitating the nooks and crevices with a dish-brush to liberate all those years-worth of other peoples detritus the individual components were left to air-dry while I gave the capsules some TLC.
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Nothing major required and the screens still look healthy. With a soft sable brush I gave them a dusting and a careful decontamination of the plastic frame with some IPA.
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Time to replace all the pads with new fresh ones.

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Now as good as new and sound great!
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The Senn army.
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The eagle-eyed amongst you will notice a vague imposter in the form of the HD545. This was also a recent aquisition which was duly cleaned and refreshed with new pads and actually sounds not a million miles away from the HD565!
The eagle-eyed amongst you may not have spotted however the HD565's in the pack which have been re-drivered. The grey headband set has HD600 drivers and the black headband set have HD650 drivers.
The HD650's are the daddy.
The HD600's are analytical.
The HD565's are fun.
The HD545's are the wannabe.
 

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Sep 6, 2021 at 5:35 PM Post #95 of 154
Might be developing an obsession with refurbing and collecting these fine cans....

11574797.jpg


Acquired 2 further sets of tired-looking HD565's recently for Euro60 each.
After inspecting collecting from the seller the first order of business was to completely disassemble, clean and decontaminate them.
Fortunately the driver capsules were in tip top condition and set aside for individual attention while I filled the kitchen sink with warm soapy water.
The pads were removed and binned.
After a good soak and agitating the nooks and crevices with a dish-brush to liberate all those years-worth of other peoples detritus the individual components were left to air-dry while I gave the capsules some TLC.
11574798.jpg

Nothing major required and the screens still look healthy. With a soft sable brush I gave them a dusting and a careful decontamination of the plastic frame with some IPA.
11574799.jpg

11574800.jpg


Time to replace all the pads with new fresh ones.

11574801.jpg


Now as good as new and sound great!
11574803.jpg


The Senn army.
11574804.jpg


The eagle-eyed amongst you will notice a vague imposter in the form of the HD545. This was also a recent aquisition which was duly cleaned and refreshed with new pads and actually sounds not a million miles away from the HD565!
The eagle-eyed amongst you may not have spotted however the HD565's in the pack which have been re-drivered. The grey headband set has HD600 drivers and the black headband set have HD650 drivers.
The HD650's are the daddy.
The HD600's are analytical.
The HD565's are fun.
The HD545's are the wannabe.
Great great great!
And you use the same cleaning technique as I do: whatever can be washed will be washed with water and soap.
 
Sep 8, 2021 at 8:34 AM Post #99 of 154
the earcup cushions are totally flat as well as the headrest cushion.
It is a very easy headphone to service. The earcup pads and foams are the same as those in the HD600 series, and the headband cushion is slightly shorter (around 2 cm smaller) but fits perfectly. Some plastic shapers cut to size on each side of the headband cushion do the trick perfectly.
No tools are needed to completely disassemble these headphones, just like in the 600 series. The clips that hold the headband cushion and slider in place are the only pieces that demand extra care when unclipping. Many times they will break.
 
Sep 16, 2021 at 7:06 AM Post #100 of 154
So as I have resto-modded 2 pairs of these with a pair of HD-600 and HD-650 drivers respectively, it means I have 2 pairs of original HD-565 drivers sitting in boxes.
I dug them out of the back of a drawer recently to see if I could investigate the problem driver from the very first pair of HD-565's I owned which was the nexus for the journey to upgrade these drivers in the first place.
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The problem driver had a caved-in diaphragm for some reason, probably because of the ridiculously damp house I was living in at the time. It compromised the SQ and motivated me to seek out a replacement driver whereupon a call to a helpful chap at Sennheiser UK revealed that it was possible to drop in some higher-spec HD-650 drivers as they were exactly the same size and fit. After approx 3 seconds of chin-rubbing I agreed to his suggestion and duly ordered a pair. :D
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Anyway, onto the HD-565 driver resto...
First things first, clean out as much of the dust, detritus and earwax as possible....
... being mindful not to disturb or touch the 2 tiny, delicate red driver wires that reside in a channel between the driver cable connectors and the voicecoil. It looks like these wires expand and deform over time, causing them to egress from the relative safety of that channel.
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Next step was to remove the small black piece of foam that resides in the small plastic cage right behind the driver. Of course, this just disintegrated as soon as I touched it so I had to go carefully and work upside down so as gravity would draw the bits of foam out and away from being trapped within the the driver diaphragm.
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Once most of the crud had been removed from the chassis it was time to carefully remove the driver, being careful not to touch the 2 tiny red driver wires.

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These tiny wires deform/expand over time so care needs to be taken to gently coax them back into the relative protection of that shallow channel.
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It's possible to push the diaphragm outwards by manouvering a cotton bud through the driver hole at the rear as this is now accessible since we removed that bit of black foam. This helps to rectify the caving-in of the central dome but it's also possible to push the diaphragm out a bit more, making a large dome shape. this enables cleaning the entire external surface area of the diaphragm dome. I used a cotton bud and a 50/50 mix of demineralised water and alcohol to remove as much dirt, dust and detritus as I could.
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The problem driver has a black line running accross its centre-line. I'm not sure what this indicates as the other driver doesn't have it. Maybe one of those clever invisible indicators that becomes visible if the diaphragm has become damaged at some point perhaps? Like the iphone internal indicator that turns red to let engineers know if it's been immersed/dropped in water (?) Dunno. Don't care.

Job done and time to replace the driver back into the chassis. Not too shabby.
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Now onto the other driver for the same wash and brush up. No black line on this driver's diaphragm.
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All done and time to test....
TOP! It still works and more importantly it sounds great again now that the small indents have been removed from the diaphragm dome.
A 30 min job from start to finish, going carefully and using a magnifier lamp to see what my 51 yr old eyes couldn't see otherwise. -.-

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Going to have a play around to see how SQ changes with different materials and/or nothing placed behind the drivers, but for now they go back in the box.
Watch this space....
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Oct 24, 2021 at 11:01 AM Post #101 of 154
Might be developing an obsession with refurbing and collecting these fine cans....

11574797.jpg


Acquired 2 further sets of tired-looking HD565's recently for Euro60 each.
After inspecting collecting from the seller the first order of business was to completely disassemble, clean and decontaminate them.
Fortunately the driver capsules were in tip top condition and set aside for individual attention while I filled the kitchen sink with warm soapy water.
The pads were removed and binned.
After a good soak and agitating the nooks and crevices with a dish-brush to liberate all those years-worth of other peoples detritus the individual components were left to air-dry while I gave the capsules some TLC.
11574798.jpg

Nothing major required and the screens still look healthy. With a soft sable brush I gave them a dusting and a careful decontamination of the plastic frame with some IPA.
11574799.jpg

11574800.jpg


Time to replace all the pads with new fresh ones.

11574801.jpg


Now as good as new and sound great!
11574803.jpg


The Senn army.
11574804.jpg


The eagle-eyed amongst you will notice a vague imposter in the form of the HD545. This was also a recent aquisition which was duly cleaned and refreshed with new pads and actually sounds not a million miles away from the HD565!
The eagle-eyed amongst you may not have spotted however the HD565's in the pack which have been re-drivered. The grey headband set has HD600 drivers and the black headband set have HD650 drivers.
The HD650's are the daddy.
The HD600's are analytical.
The HD565's are fun.
The HD545's are the wannabe.

Wow, that's one impressive collection you've got there! Bravo! Warms my heart after seeing the conditions these are sold in on a regular.

Also, as an owner of the HD545, HD565 and HD580, I am very interested in hearing what a HD650 driver sounds like in a HD565 chassis. Care to post a thorough comparison on the perceived changes in sound?

Personally I would really really like to own something like a HD565 with more bass and/or a HD580 with a larger soundstage.
 
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Oct 24, 2021 at 5:36 PM Post #102 of 154
Wow, that's one impressive collection you've got there! Bravo! Warms my heart after seeing the conditions these are sold in on a regular.

Also, as an owner of the HD545, HD565 and HD580, I am very interested in hearing what a HD650 driver sounds like in a HD565 chassis. Care to post a thorough comparison on the perceived changes in sound?

Personally I would really really like to own something like a HD565 with more bass and/or a HD580 with a larger soundstage.
Yes, it's nice to rejuvenate all these pairs of un-loved HD565's that nobody seems to want any more!
I think the chassis styling puts people off a bit perhaps - they're a very 90's sort of design/aesthetic.
I have 2x 565 chassis with both HD600 and HD650 drivers and I have compared them to the 'proper' HD600 and 650 and tbh I couldn't tell any difference whatsoever!
I thought there might be some perceptible difference due to the different housing/nacelle designs but no, nada. Nothing differentiated after listening for about 2 hours.
I recently added a pair of HD535's to the collection and was surprised at how resolving it can sound in stock form!
The 565 is super punchy and 'alive' but you can alter it's SS by foaming out the driver nacelles and also removing the foam bit that sits central to the rear port of each driver and replace it with different materials to give it more 'weight' and authority.
Playing around with them never gets boring - it's like a physical manifestation of EQ'ing! :D
btw you can EQ the 565 to sound almost identical to a stock 650.
:wink:
 
Oct 27, 2021 at 5:44 PM Post #103 of 154
Yes, it's nice to rejuvenate all these pairs of un-loved HD565's that nobody seems to want any more!
I think the chassis styling puts people off a bit perhaps - they're a very 90's sort of design/aesthetic.
I have 2x 565 chassis with both HD600 and HD650 drivers and I have compared them to the 'proper' HD600 and 650 and tbh I couldn't tell any difference whatsoever!
I thought there might be some perceptible difference due to the different housing/nacelle designs but no, nada. Nothing differentiated after listening for about 2 hours.
I recently added a pair of HD535's to the collection and was surprised at how resolving it can sound in stock form!
The 565 is super punchy and 'alive' but you can alter it's SS by foaming out the driver nacelles and also removing the foam bit that sits central to the rear port of each driver and replace it with different materials to give it more 'weight' and authority.
Playing around with them never gets boring - it's like a physical manifestation of EQ'ing! :D
btw you can EQ the 565 to sound almost identical to a stock 650.
:wink:
Thanks for your insights!

Yeah, I've read about the foam(removal) mod, where in some instances it's even done on a pair of HD650.

Who knows, I might try it on the HD545, although I was thinking of selling it. It's a great pair of headphones which will probably make someone very happy. It seems to sit somewhere in the middle of the 565 and 580, but I seem to enjoy the latter two more. I guess because they both clearly have their specialties.

The 580 is really really great for more intimate acoustic stuff. To my ears it has a more exciting tonal quality. The timbre is definitely a step up. It's more defined, more alive.

But... it comes at a cost of soundstage and this is something the 565 does significantly better in my experience. So for soundtracks the likes of Hans Zimmer, Nick Cave & Warren Ellis, etc. I grab the 565's every time.

This reminds me to buy a couple of HD6** grills for my 580's someday, seeing as the grill are the only thing setting the HD545 and 565 apart and it does indeed make a pretty significant impact on the sound signature! I take it the 535 probably has the same driver as well?


*Also, you're probably right about most people being turned off by the looks of these. Whenever I look at these, my mind immediately goes "1989 office furniture".
 
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Oct 30, 2021 at 7:31 AM Post #104 of 154
So as I have resto-modded 2 pairs of these with a pair of HD-600 and HD-650 drivers respectively, it means I have 2 pairs of original HD-565 drivers sitting in boxes.
I dug them out of the back of a drawer recently to see if I could investigate the problem driver from the very first pair of HD-565's I owned which was the nexus for the journey to upgrade these drivers in the first place.


The problem driver had a caved-in diaphragm for some reason, probably because of the ridiculously damp house I was living in at the time. It compromised the SQ and motivated me to seek out a replacement driver whereupon a call to a helpful chap at Sennheiser UK revealed that it was possible to drop in some higher-spec HD-650 drivers as they were exactly the same size and fit. After approx 3 seconds of chin-rubbing I agreed to his suggestion and duly ordered a pair. :D


Anyway, onto the HD-565 driver resto...
First things first, clean out as much of the dust, detritus and earwax as possible....
... being mindful not to disturb or touch the 2 tiny, delicate red driver wires that reside in a channel between the driver cable connectors and the voicecoil. It looks like these wires expand and deform over time, causing them to egress from the relative safety of that channel.

Next step was to remove the small black piece of foam that resides in the small plastic cage right behind the driver. Of course, this just disintegrated as soon as I touched it so I had to go carefully and work upside down so as gravity would draw the bits of foam out and away from being trapped within the the driver diaphragm.




Once most of the crud had been removed from the chassis it was time to carefully remove the driver, being careful not to touch the 2 tiny red driver wires.



These tiny wires deform/expand over time so care needs to be taken to gently coax them back into the relative protection of that shallow channel.


It's possible to push the diaphragm outwards by manouvering a cotton bud through the driver hole at the rear as this is now accessible since we removed that bit of black foam. This helps to rectify the caving-in of the central dome but it's also possible to push the diaphragm out a bit more, making a large dome shape. this enables cleaning the entire external surface area of the diaphragm dome. I used a cotton bud and a 50/50 mix of demineralised water and alcohol to remove as much dirt, dust and detritus as I could.



The problem driver has a black line running accross its centre-line. I'm not sure what this indicates as the other driver doesn't have it. Maybe one of those clever invisible indicators that becomes visible if the diaphragm has become damaged at some point perhaps? Like the iphone internal indicator that turns red to let engineers know if it's been immersed/dropped in water (?) Dunno. Don't care.

Job done and time to replace the driver back into the chassis. Not too shabby.


Now onto the other driver for the same wash and brush up. No black line on this driver's diaphragm.


All done and time to test....
TOP! It still works and more importantly it sounds great again now that the small indents have been removed from the diaphragm dome.
A 30 min job from start to finish, going carefully and using a magnifier lamp to see what my 51 yr old eyes couldn't see otherwise. -.-



Going to have a play around to see how SQ changes with different materials and/or nothing placed behind the drivers, but for now they go back in the box.
Watch this space....
:wink:

I opened up and switched around drivers from my HD545, 565 and 580.

I especially liked how the 580 driver sounded in the 565 casing. To my ears it did result in an (ever so slightly) increase in air/space. Could be due to the diffence is grills, could be due the reduction in clamping. Who knows.

The difference was definitly not night and day, but I can definitely understand that a 650 driver in 565 casing is your favourite of the bunch!

Anyway, I also noticed that one of the HD545 drivers has a dark line running across it. Just like the one in your pictures. There's no recognisable damage and the thing still sounds great... So like you, I am not entirely sure as to why this is the case? Then again, maybe I shouldn't care. Especially if it still works fine.

Anyway. Cheers, thanks again for the pics and inspiration to play around with these headphones!
 
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Nov 27, 2021 at 11:55 AM Post #105 of 154
I'm not currently a member of the 5x5 owners club, but I have found this thread very interesting to read through, particularly with regards to putting newer drivers in the older frames. I am now wondering whether trying the HD600 or HD650 drivers inside an HD265 body would be worth a try
 

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