Sennheiser HD 660S2 thread

Feb 21, 2023 at 8:10 PM Post #1,381 of 7,971
I have this cable and it's actually *not* like a real Sennheiser cable. It's more grippy/rubbery feeling and the split part goes down quite a ways further than a stock cable does. I actually prefer the HD 650 & Apogee cable here. It's a legitimate Sennheiser cable, feels great and also terminates in 3.5mm. It's also quite short at like 4.5ft.
Tried the link but it's not showing any pics. Just a few comments and price. Don't think it can be ordered for the UK ? Or might be over priced if postage. Etc ... But I'll have a check . But either way my new £10.99 one feels and works good . I have been using it past 4 HR on my 660s and all good . I don't mind the cable materials or length. Would even buy another in a slightly larger length ....Not. 3 m. Lol . But looking on Amazon and eBay UK. Compared to the similar priced cables shown this is good.

Googled the cable , shows UK price . Clicked it , then went to sennheiser EU . And said. Sold out lol
 
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Feb 21, 2023 at 8:13 PM Post #1,382 of 7,971
I'm glad he pointed out the unfortunate unboxing experience of the HD660S2's.
There's the entry level boxes that are thrown away like the HD560S.

Then you have the HD600/HD650/HD6XX/HD660S unboxing experience and you know you just entered into the higher end market of headphones.
I'm glad that he mentioned that the HD660S2 box was insulting to it predecessors, because it really is.
They could have done what all other tech companies have been doing and introduced more intricate paper/cardboard packaging for the 660S2 if their reason for not having a nice box is for being eco-friendly.
Even though I don't use the box for my headphones and prefer to use a rack, when I open my HD660S box there's still the fresh, lingering scent of a new piece of electronics that brings back all the nostalgia.
As for my HD600 unboxing experience, I bought them from a smoker. I replaced all fabrics and gave the HD600 a light brushing to get rid of the smoker grime. But anyways, even though my unboxing experience with the HD600's were quite miserable, it's still nonetheless nostalgic.

I still have my Audio Technica ATH-A900X box and despite having a cheesy plastic window and thin cardboard housing, I still remember the audio technicas feeling like a premium experience.

Going back to the HD660S2's, they need to be competitive. You can see it in this thread, people were relatively satisfied for the original pricing of $637 canadian, americans wer obviously jumping for joy. Sure it was still relatively pricey but it was still within the realm of reasonable. Then there would be people like me that would see the possibility of it dropping down to $450 used, and if I liked it I would sell my HD660S for $250 and eat the $200. Does the $799 canadian imply that they're better than the HD660S/DT1990/Sundara mid-fi trio that are often found on youtube?

When I bought the Sundaras it was probably my worst purchase to date because I didn't follow my tried and true research methods, which was browsing reviews on Head-Fi and reading Tyll Hertsen's impressions. Tyll had all the measurement gear and he would point out all his findings into words:
Here's a 1khz bump and this is what it did to sound.
Here's a peak at 7khz and you can hear it in X instrument as metallic.
Here's a etc etc.
His method of presenting graphs with explanation is what really helped me when buying headphones. He may have stated his subjective opinion of disliking certain headphones but he always pointed out why and even though it was something he disliked, it was something I could have liked. Then I would go on Head-Fi and see if any other had a similar opinion to make sure his reviews were consistent to measurements and characteristics of a headphone.

Instead I did the following: I browsed Reddit and watched youtube reviewers.
A lot of youtube reviewers said the Sundaras were in their opinion the best out of the modern day trio: DT1990 vs HD660S vs Sundara.
However when I had the two headphones hand-in-hand. There was very little mention from youtubers that the HD660S has more microdetails in mids and treble than the Sundara. Or that the Sundara has the tallest soundstage versus the HD660S. Or that the Sundaras imaging felt quite lacking versus the HD660S but make up for it due to their height and wide soundstage. And nobody except for Crinacle ever mentioned about the treble except for it being "a little spicy". At least he pointed it out. That treble threw off vocal tonality for S pronunciations and it was absolutely horrendous. Not even the Koss KSC-75 does that, but hey the Sundaras are balanced so I guess that beats the other two headphones for that right.

So I come back on here and find my exact same findings from people that enjoy the hobby. lol. To me reviews on Head-Fi have been a consistent source for me when it comes to buying a headphone I'm unsure of. Some reviewers here will not hesitate to exclaim what they dislike, and they can go for paragraphs what they love about a headphone. One thing that I wish from reviewers on Head-Fi is to never fall into bias for more karma; woops, wrong forum :p

Sorry, went on a rant there.

On a side note I'm working on an EQ preset that makes the HD660S sound like the HD660S2, I'll let you guys know when I'm done with it. Had a busy weekend.

I do agree that the packaging does feel like an insult, really surprised me when seeing new unboxing of hd600/650 a legendary headphone now comes in a box like that, ive had usb cables packaged with more attention to detail and thought put in to it. Sadly I can see the same will happen for the HD800S but in a slightly bigger box.
 
Feb 21, 2023 at 8:26 PM Post #1,383 of 7,971
I've had better unboxing experiences from sub-$100 Chinese-made flashlights (Olight) than the HD 58X unboxing experience I got, which I didn't mind too much due to the price. But it would've been nice if all of the 600 series came with better boxes.

I'm glad the HD 700 came in the nicer boxes before Senn sold out to Sonova. I still have the 700 box on the shelf and keep the original wires in them (since upgraded to aftermarket 4.4mm balanced wires).

$600 for 660S2 should not come with a terrible throwaway box and awful unboxing experience. Guess they gotta cut costs everywhere possible, huh?
 
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Feb 21, 2023 at 8:46 PM Post #1,385 of 7,971
I've had better unboxing experiences from sub-$100 Chinese-made flashlights (Olight) than the HD 58X unboxing experience I got, which I didn't mind too much due to the price. But it would've been nice if all of the 600 series came with better boxes.

I'm glad the HD 700 came in the nicer boxes before Senn sold out to Sonova. I still have the 700 box on the shelf and keep the original wires in them (since upgraded to aftermarket 4.4mm balanced wires).

$600 for 660S2 should not come with a terrible throwaway box and awful unboxing experience. Guess they gotta cut costs everywhere possible, huh?
Olights are nice though, and better than blisterpacked Streamlight or SureFire packaging.

DMS mentioned something in his review and ive been thinking about it a lot.

HD600/650 with an aluminium frame. It could be done as an anniversary edition, internal higher grade silver cable, nice hard presentation box etc
Uh oh, those silver cables are going to alienate a lot of people 😰
 
Feb 21, 2023 at 10:07 PM Post #1,386 of 7,971
Congrats! I'm happy to hear you finally got the package. Having spent some time today with 800S and 660S2 today (and the 800 yesterday), I'm curious as to what another 800S owner thinks about the treble detail retrieval vs the 660S2 specifically (IMHO they're damn close even though most other traits are apples/oranges) 👀
Send me an 800S and I’ll be happy to write that up :)
 
Feb 21, 2023 at 10:15 PM Post #1,387 of 7,971
Amazon delivered early:)

Listening to them as I type. Call me crazy but the box didn’t bother me. I just toss them in the closet anyways, so not an issue to me. But oh that new Sennheiser clamp! I’m feeling it after an hour straight. Already feeling the headache coming. Tonight I’ll leave them clamping the widest part of the box, should be better by morning. Worked like magic with my 650. I love the new color scheme, very classy and understated. I won’t comment on sound yet, other than it’s noticeably faster than the 650. Here’sa poorly composed shot for fun, I’ll get better pics this weekend with my camera and 85mm.
 

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Feb 21, 2023 at 10:31 PM Post #1,388 of 7,971
Amazon delivered early:)

Listening to them as I type. Call me crazy but the box didn’t bother me. I just toss them in the closet anyways, so not an issue to me. But oh that new Sennheiser clamp! I’m feeling it after an hour straight. Already feeling the headache coming. Tonight I’ll leave them clamping the widest part of the box, should be better by morning. Worked like magic with my 650. I love the new color scheme, very classy and understated. I won’t comment on sound yet, other than it’s noticeably faster than the 650. Here’sa poorly composed shot for fun, I’ll get better pics this weekend with my camera and 85mm.
Noyce 😎 Congrats and enjoy!
 
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Feb 22, 2023 at 12:59 AM Post #1,390 of 7,971
The moment I put this on. I looked up in the sky. Sennheiser has finally delivered. I owned the HD600 all the way back 20 years ago, and I always love the way it sounds but always cringe when the bass could go no further down. - There is a lack of sub-bass in the HD6 series range. I have moved on to all other HD6 series and then to Hifiman all the way to HE1000v2, LCD 3 etc.. Today 20 years later - This moment is special, especially for folks like me who are looking for the perfect mid-range vocal headphone but have to bear with the lack of sub-bass (sorry, no dynamic headphones can touch the HD600/650 vocal beauty as of yet IMO - Not even focal headphones ) . They have finally delivered these special headphones. I waited for 20 years, and my beard has already turned white. The wait is over.

For folks waiting for more sub-bass of their HD 600/650 series without EQ. - This is it! -

Oh bonus to that - The soundstage, layering, and 3d holographic are ever more present in the HD660S2 than all other HD6 series. For that pro reviewer who say I can get the same with EQ - well, you probably will get the sub-bass, but not the soundstage, layering .. so Eq cant complete it.

Enjoy folks. cheers. - It's time to dye my beard back to its original color - I feel 20 years younger today.!
 
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Feb 22, 2023 at 1:01 AM Post #1,391 of 7,971
The moment I put this on. I looked up in the sky. Sennheiser has finally delivered. I owned the HD650 all the way back 20 years ago, and I always love the way it sounds but always cringe when the bass could go no further down. - There is a lack of sub-bass in the HD6 series range. I have moved on to all other HD6 series and then to Hifiman all the way to HE1000v2, LCD 3 etc.. Today 20 years later - This moment is special, especially for folks like me who are looking for the perfect mid-range vocal headphone but have to bear with the lack of sub-bass (sorry, no dynamic headphones can touch the HD600/650 vocal beauty as of yet IMO - Not even focal headphones ) . They have finally delivered these special headphones. I waited for 20 years, and my beard has already turned white. The wait is over.

For folks waiting for more sub-bass of their HD 600/650 series without EQ. - This is it! -

Oh bonus to that - The soundstage, layering, and 3d holographic are ever more present in the HD660S2 than all other HD6 series. For that pro reviewer who say I can get the same with EQ - well, you probably will get the sub-bass, but not the soundstage, layering .. so Eq cant complete it.

Enjoy folks. cheers. - It's time to dye my beard back to its original color - I feel 20 years younger today.!
…or shave the beard !! 😜
 
Feb 22, 2023 at 3:56 AM Post #1,394 of 7,971
HD 800 can be modded. Most TOTL wish to be as good as a JAR800. They can have their sub bass at least and walk away with it.
 

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