Sennheiser HD 660S2 thread

[krenzler]

So you represent Resolve, I actually have no clue what or who you are.

So clueless?

Hint: He's a living person so not a "what".

 

[457139]

So clueless?

Hint: He's a living person so not a "what".

One of the rudest, dumbest posts I've seen on here in a minute

 

[tamleo]

So clueless?

Hint: He's a living person so not a "what".

He thought Resolve was a company maybe.
I like Resolve’s review. He is neutral and have professional vibe

 

[Audiowood]

He is a good reviewer and I respect his opinion a lot. I luv the whole team from headphones.com. Here is one he did.

 

[chesebert]

He is a good reviewer and I respect his opinion a lot. I luv the whole team from headphones.com. Here is one he did.

I believe this matches my impression of 660S2.

 

[pietcux]

I wrote who or what. That leaves some room for a person or a company. Now I know by research that Resolve is a person who does headphone frequency measurements and a member of trade. A very influential person replacing good old Tyll, or is at least trying to do so.
I saw his top headphone lists, now I see and move on.

 

[Audiowood]

I believe this matches my impression of 660S2.

Yeap. I did hear it as well and was estimating at 3-5Khz dip previously. Interestingly, that massive dip at 4Khz is not really obvious based on actual hearing. This graph makes it sound really dark and veil - which is not in my experience. - Hhhmm,..

 

[ku1185]

Yeap. I did hear it as well and was estimating at 3-5Khz dip previously. Interestingly, that massive dip at 4Khz is not really obvious based on actual hearing. This graph makes it sound really dark and veil - which is not in my experience. - Hhhmm,..

While 2khz-5khz is generally noticeable (no shoutiness yay), that big 4khz dip wasn't apparent to me. Then again, a lot of Beyers have a 4khz dip and I never noticed it on those either. Maybe I just don't know what I'm listening for, but it doesn't sound wrong or incorrect to me ears.

 

[Resolve]

Yeap. I did hear it as well and was estimating at 3-5Khz dip previously. Interestingly, that massive dip at 4Khz is not really obvious based on actual hearing. This graph makes it sound really dark and veil - which is not in my experience. - Hhhmm,..

It's most likely a deep phase cancellation, but it's sufficiently narrow Q that... while audible, is unlikely to be all that noticeable with music. Narrow Q dips really aren't like narrow Q peaks perceptually, and so we shouldn't overly scrutinize that stuff too much when looking at measurements. If you use a tone generator, then yeah you're more likely to hear a dip somewhere in that region (it'll be different depending on the person).

 

[chesebert]

I disagree that the upper mid/lower treble dip is not noticeable. I heard it right away and have voiced my disagreement with the FR in my impression elsewhere in this thread. IMO, 660S2 is highly YMMV and is not a good candidate for general recommendation.

 

[Art Garfunkel]

He thought Resolve was a company maybe.
I like Resolve’s review. He is neutral and have professional vibe

I would not put any faith or trust in reviewers, they often are way off from what I'm hearing. They often spin their findings in a negative way for one headphone (no recommendation) while indicating "it might be just for you" with another one and recommend that one. They appear to have an agenda to sell headphones. You will note they are always the first to get and first to review, even before they are often available to the general public, even pre-order. Plus, aren't a couple of them affiliated with vendors that sell headphones? I would think conflict of interest at play but I might be off here. I guess I only wanted to stress that you should trust your ears and no one else's when your money is at stake. Headphones are very expensive.

 

[Slackaveli]

Ive been in sales for decades. There are definitely a lot of youtube "reviewers" who are taking the bag from companies to spin narratives. Not calling any names, but, it's quite obvious at times.

Forum comment sections are better sources of information generally as there arent agendas at play here (at least much less so).

 

[chesebert]

Ive been in sales for decades. There are definitely a lot of youtube "reviewers" who are taking the bag from companies to spin narratives. Not calling any names, but, it's quite obvious at times.

Forum comment sections are better sources of information generally as there arent agendas at play here (at least much less so).

oh boy, you are in for a ride, in that case. You will get to know the Pied Pipers soon enough.

 

[Resolve]

I disagree that the upper mid/lower treble dip is not noticeable. I heard it right away and have voiced my disagreement with the FR in my impression elsewhere in this thread. IMO, 660S2 is highly YMMV and is not a good candidate for general recommendation.

So the general relaxed ear gain is definitely audible, it's also what I noted in my review. But the specific deep phase cancellation feature is something that isn't going to be as recognizable to everyone with music playing, given the auditory masking from nearby regions. I suggest trying out some EQ to test this actually. While you can't fix the deep phase issue with EQ, you can definitely bring back the upper mid clarity by boosting that region.

Give this a shot:

 

[Rob80b]

I disagree that the upper mid/lower treble dip is not noticeable. I heard it right away and have voiced my disagreement with the FR in my impression elsewhere in this thread. IMO, 660S2 is highly YMMV and is not a good candidate for general recommendation.

We will continue to continue to disagree as IMHO the S2 is an excellent candidate "for general recommendation". : ) So far appears to work with all genres of music, an all round very good headphone if I may say so.
Haven't come across anything yet to upset the cart and the previous examples or incidences that were reported I haven't been able to duplicate or experience in any meaningful way to show me otherwise.
Again maybe my expectations are much lower... but within my realm of preferences and history with a few headphones, I have no problems recommending the new Sennheiser, obviously one should audition if possible and not just take my word for it.