[bearFNF]

Doesn't look like he is using USB, he said it is connected via BNC to a RPI hat.

My Yggy has been doing this clicking every so often, also. May need to dig into this. This is with my RPi-hifiberry digi+ pro coax running RoPieee from Roon. I will do some switching around and see if I can find the cause.

Every time I reboot I get that clicking because its been disconnected and re-connects. I once had a bad (expensive) optical Toslink that did that with another DAC. Could be a bad case of drop outs coming from your USB connection. Did you try a different USB port? If you have USB 3.0 you might want to try that.. if its not a defective USB cord it may help stop it..

Try a little DeoxIT on the USB connectors? https://www.amazon.com/DeOxit-Cleaning-Solution-Spray-spray/dp/B0002BBV4G

 

[Astral Abyss]

I have a weird problem with my Yggy, I've had it for about 2 years and I'm loving it, but recently while playing music I can hear clicking sounds (as if I'm changing inputs, except I'm not) - could it be a relay? Whats funny is that the music keeps on playing, but obviously the audible mechanical click is very annoying. Happens at all audio bit-rates.

My Yggy is connected via a BNC to an RPI with an Allo DigiOne HAT. used to work perfectly.

Any ideas? Thank you!

Get a new cell phone or wireless mouse recently? Could it be cell phone interference being picked up by your equipment? Sounds like clicks to me when I get my phone too close to my tube amps.

 

[SeaWo|f]

Nice little music server. I will be interested to hear if you are able to resolve the issue.

 

[bunkbail]

After using the Yggy almost exclusively for almost a year and half, before that a Gumby, and before that a vintage Theta Progeny (yes, a lot of the Moffat filter DACs), I just picked up a DAC I always wanted to try: the Sonic Frontiers SFD-1 mkII. Looking forward to comparing these two. Other DACs I tried recently were the Soekris 1541, which was very good, the Metrum Amethyst, a viable NOS alternative to Gumby, and the Holo Spring KTE level III, which was also great but not preferable to my Yggy.

Have you posted an impression of SFD-1 MKII vs Yggy anywhere?

 

[5genez]

Nobody got Mike's allusion to do what you want but he can't tell you so directly? There are no seals on Schiit products. You can even replace the fuse with the original one if you need to send the Yggy back. I am sure they will be able to tell if it was your fuse that screwed up something even if you never mention the fuse.

Yes there are seals... The Freya that I just received comes with seal, warning if its broken the warranty is voided.

You can not own what you buy this way. Its not really yours. Its always someone else's. Its like a form of audio socialism.

If Schiit wants to turn the unfair, insane, litigation issue into something fair to the audiophile? They should at least put a removable fuse holder in the back.

There are some high quality audio quality holders made! Silver plated! Yet, Schiit may claim that the fuse sounds better with the fuse on the board? Well, if that's the case? Then they know little things can make a difference.

An audiophile fuse placed in a high end fuse holder in the back can sound much better in the end, than the glass fuse on the board. It could make a big difference for those who have systems allowing them to hear it.

If I keep this Freya?... I will not know its full potential as is without voiding the warranty. I must void out the warranty to make it better sounding.

If they knew there is this litigation matter? Accommodate the audiophile then! They say putting a fuse on the back is a compromise? Having a cheap glass fuse is not a big compromise? Is Schiit saying that their ears are really not that good to hear a difference?

Its really got me wondering... Why are other audio companies not bound to this law like they are? Which ones are, and why only them?

There are audiophile fuse holders that can be assembled on the back. It will cost more. But not that much. http://www.partsconnexion.com/acme-65008_img.html

What good is the money I spent if all potential is being wasted? When for a a lot less money for a fuse holder in back? I can actually have much more of what I purchased?

Nobody got Mike's allusion to do what you want but he can't tell you so directly? There are no seals on Schiit products. You can even replace the fuse with the original one if you need to send the Yggy back. I am sure they will be able to tell if it was your fuse that screwed up something even if you never mention the fuse.

That's not the point. Many people would not be qualified to safely open and put back together the unit. A simple very high quality fuse holder situated in the back would allow better audio listening.

As good as the reviews are? I am still hearing that glass fuse veiling. Its frustrating. It should not be this complicated.

 

[bearFNF]

We've been down this road many times, bottom line is, if you don't like it you can sell all your Schiit buy something else....

BTW there were no "seals" on my Yggy or my Bifrost.

 

[5genez]

We've been down this road many times, bottom line is, if you don't like it you can sell all your Schiit buy something else....

BTW there were no "seals" on my Yggy or my Bifrost.

My Yggy does not as well. The Freya does. The Freya is going back. Its not a matter of not liking something. Its a matter of not being allowed to experience its full potential. Why give something a very high potential, only to deny the owner the ability to discover it? Other high end companies do not present this roadblock.

 

[Thenewguy007]

Who say's you're not allowed to? All you do is void a near useless warranty that lasts for what 2 years?

If you do have malfunctions with the unit, the cost to replace the parts would be cheap as well, unless it's the transformer or the entire circuit board.

 

[garbulky]

Glass fuse veil? Well I guess there are different things that float peoples boat. But it's Schiit's onus to say no user serviceable parts inside. So you either deal with the unit you are given,you void the warranty, or you send it back. I don't think this is actually an issue.

It's just that you can't do what you want with the unit without voiding the warranty.

You're still free to tinker around - but yes you will lose the warranty. Perhaps it's a little restrictive, but it's their choice.

 

[bacobits]

No seal on the yiggy. The warranty is 5 years not 2.
Don't like don't buy. This is foolishness...... no BS!

 

[5genez]

Glass fuse veil? Well I guess there are different things that float peoples boat. But it's Schiit's onus to say no user serviceable parts inside. So you either deal with the unit you are given,you void the warranty, or you send it back. I don't think this is actually an issue.

It's just that you can't do what you want with the unit without voiding the warranty.

You're still free to tinker around - but yes you will lose the warranty. Perhaps it's a little restrictive, but it's their choice.

Not as free as I would want to be. I am not sure if I remove the Feya's case that the LED's in the front won't present a problem when putting it back together. With the Yggy its only involving a ribbon connector in front. I can work with that. .

Yes... glass fuses will veil the sound to a degree. Problem is with my position... Not everyone has the same hearing capacity,,, just like not everyone has the same eyesight capacity.

If you only listen with headphones you probably would not notice the glass fuse veil as easily as with good speakers. But with my Nuprime HPA-9 using Sennheiser HD 650's, changing to a very modest Schurter audio fuse improved what I was hearing.

On the other hand.. The Freya is only a preamp, and not a HP amp. Headphones put me in another place. While listening with good speakers they put me inside of some room.. With revealing speakers the fuse can make a very noticeable difference.

If you want to call it a problem. I find my speakers reveal every little change I make. But, I call it an asset in fine tuning things to where I like them. The Freya with its glass fuse was giving me a sound that my mother would like. "It sounds so nice!" But, it was veiling the details I know are there. I wanted the Freya for its balanced connections. But, its just too frustrating this way. Never in all my years of audio have I ever experienced such a restriction, even if I did not want to change a fuse. And,, again. Schiit could make a minor upgrade on future units by putting an accessible fuse holder for us crazy ones.

This something also..What if the veiling I am hearing is because the fuse was put in backwards? I can make my equipment sound somewhat disappointing by doing that with any fuse. If Schiit who claims they do not believe fuses make a difference? That means? When they are assembled no one pays attention to the fuse direction. And, if the Freya's fuse is in backwards? I can not even correct that mistake without voiding the warranty even if I wanted to keep the original fuse.

Yes... If your system allows for it to be heard? Even getting a lowly glass fuse orientated in the right direction will sound better. That factor may explain why a component can get a rave review, but the next one off the line with its fuse reversed will leave a customer wondering what happened. I had that happen to me with another company. But, just flipping the fuse made the needed difference.

I can not even find out if the OEM fuse is in backwards without voiding the warranty. Call me crazy if you wish. Others out there know what I speak of is sanity. Only those who can't believe it drive us crazy.

 

[5genez]

No seal on the yiggy. The warranty is 5 years not 2.
Don't like don't buy. This is foolishness...... no BS!

Its not that simple. I like the Yggy, and know that if it sounds this good with a glass fuse? That it will sound fantastic with an audiophile fuse. Compared to all other DACs I heard with their glass fuses? The Yggy makes you know its better. But, some DACs that I have put in audiophile fuses will tromp the Yggy in certain ways. But, not with their glass fuses.

That is why this is frustrating for me. I know that there is a potential there that has become forbidden fruit because of some legality that borders on the absurd.

 

[winders]

Yeah, yeah....your ears are better than anyone else here and so is your equipment....we have all heard it before. If we can't hear something it because of our crappy ears or our crappy equipment.

 

[5genez]

Glass fuse veil? Well I guess there are different things that float peoples boat. But it's Schiit's onus to say no user serviceable parts inside. So you either deal with the unit you are given,you void the warranty, or you send it back. I don't think this is actually an issue.

It's just that you can't do what you want with the unit without voiding the warranty.

You're still free to tinker around - but yes you will lose the warranty. Perhaps it's a little restrictive, but it's their choice.

The new label in the future could read.... No parts inside are serviceable... Leaving a audiophile fuse holder accessible on the outside.

 

[5genez]

Yeah, yeah....your ears are better than anyone else here and so is your equipment....we have all heard it before. If we can't hear something it because of our crappy ears or our crappy equipment.

By the looks of what you have listed as your system you should not have any problem hearing what a good fuse can do. You never tried them?

And, others here have heard the difference.

I believe someone mentioned this earlier in the thread about hearing ability types...

Here is a video that will cover this aspect of some having a special form of hearing deficiency…
He speaks about his own hearing inability starting around 19 minutes in - though the whole video is very interesting to watch.