Fantastic, but I have never compared the 2 side by side, so this should be interesting.
They replied after about 3 days to my first email but the third email was about 6 hours so it is very hit and miss.
AuditoryCanvas
500+ Head-Fier
My pair (coin base) sound average at best to be honest. Curious what Wes thinks of them?
Edit, read Wes' reply after posting haha. Maybe my pair are duffers if they sound fantastic to you?
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The Hamburg 6201 Pinched Waist Triple Mica D Getter (bottom code Df1 first version) is one of the best tubes I have ever heard period, and the verdict is still out on the Hamburg ECC81 Coin Base (bottom code YKB D6), as I am still learning what this tube can do. I actually forgot I had a cherry pair of the Coin Base Hamburgs that I burned in with my old V2 before I sold it, so I am just now getting to know this tube and will report back after spending all day switching back and forth. I will say the Coin Base does sound pretty good so far, and I will keep you posted if it can actually hang with the 6201.
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Well, I just rolled my 6201 back in after a short session with the Coin Base this morning, and you are right. The Coin Base are nothing to write home about. The 6201 PWTMDG takes that tube down without even breaking a sweat.
Maybe, tubez are like gf's.
I mean, some are bad, but in a good way. And some are good, but in a bad way.
And some are just plain bad, and some just plain good.
And after a few drinks, it gets harder to tell. And after a few more, it gets harder to tell anybody.
Like that.
bcowen
Headphoneus Supremus
Maybe, tubez are like gf's.
I mean, some are bad, but in a good way. And some are good, but in a bad way.
And some are just plain bad, and some just plain good.
And after a few drinks, it gets harder to tell. And after a few more, it gets harder to tell anybody.
Like that.
LOL!
Bad girls are always good, you just don't bring them home to momma. Good girls are frequently boring, but usually have a much higher momma acceptance factor. And if you find that one in a million that's really bad but can artfully smokescreen the good thing, they quickly transition from girlfriend to wife.
TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
From what I've heard almost 48hrs on burn in on the 56 Footies CV455 aren't all that great. Seems like too hot in the highs so far. Not much warmth to go around. The CV4033 may be superior to these but want 100 hours in before comparing them.
TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
Thanks guys, going to pass on those Hamburgs even though I am a huge fan of my other Hamburg variants.
billerb1
Headphoneus Supremus
Interesting bro. I have about the same hours of burn-in now and am finding the highs smoother and not as prone to bleed into unwanted territories in the soundstage.
And overall I'd say my total signature is a touch warmer with the 455's. I'm not hearing night and day differences between the 455's and the 4033's but in those two areas it is noticeable to me. The blackness and overall instrument separation are the biggest differences to me...and the vocals not being as emphasized.
But you and I don't always hear the same things if I remember right and come at this with totally different rigs so it's not surprising. Real curious where we'll both be on these in a couple more days.
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TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
I've had limited listening in that time and I reserve final judgment later on. Synergy as you know is very subjective for many reasons. I am running 1 other set of tubes in the chain and that definitely influences too. I know you and others love the Telefunken ECC801s but in my rig it's a total mess.
billerb1
Headphoneus Supremus
Yeah we come at it from some different angles and it is all about synergy. We'll see where we both are when the smoke clears bro.
TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
Hey bro do you still have the Telefunken E188CC I traded you for the 56 CCA Heerlen PW? Having a listen to them now after quite a long time. Very unique sound sig.
billerb1
Headphoneus Supremus
I sure do TK. They were my #1 for quite awhile until the Tele ECC801S's came along. It is one of just a few pairs didn't sell from the old days. Kept those and Ivan's 7L4 red Valvo D getters. Everything else I have left for driver tubes require adapters...couple pairs of the 3 mica Fotons and a couple pair of the Tung Sols 2c51's (?). Think that's it.
ksorota
1000+ Head-Fier
So who do we petition to change the name if this thread to “best 12a*** tube rolling discussion”
Curious how many of you still have the MJ2.
This is one if the only threads I follow and I sold mine months ago!
Curious how many of you still have the MJ2.
This is one if the only threads I follow and I sold mine months ago!
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