[spyder1]

Ive never read anything definitive on greys being better than silver. Some rankings have the grey above and others have them equal.

Brent jessee told me me he has hasnt heard opinions based on listening that the grey are better

I know i am a huge fan of my silvers but never heard the greys

If anyone has had a fair bit if use of both then do let me know

Maybe the silvers being usually cheaper than the greys is a nice benefit on tubes that dont have much/any difference

I purchased 2 pair of Silver Shield Siemens CCa last Summer for 1/2 the price of Grey Shield Siemens CCa's. The discount compared to Grey Shield CCa's make them sound good to my ears.

 

[TK16]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Siemens-CCa-NOS-NIB-grey-shield-only-open-for-test-best-sounding-CCa-/391723162138
Anybody here get this set? Not a bad price for NOS/NIB grey shields.
 
Heerlen E188CC $99 opening bid less than 2 days left.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/matched-pair-E188CC-from-philips-miniwatt-CCa-/302250844706
 
2 pair of Tele E188CC $300 OBO a set.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Telefunken-E188CC-matched-pair-gold-pin-same-production-date-Very-rare-/282389245729
 
1 pinched waist Heerlen ECC88 auction.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amperex-ECC88-6DJ8-Tube-Pinched-Waist-Large-D-Getter-1957-5-DAYS-ONLY-/371892461047
 
Mixed PW Heerlen PCC88 and non PW German PCC88 auction.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-PCC88-D-Getter-1-Pinched-Waist-Philips-Miniwatt-Pre-Amp-Tubes-vintage-/142311594851
 
Lorenz Stuttgart PCC88 single auction.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-PCC88-7DJ8-Lorenz-Stuttgart-white-version-6DJ8-E88CC-6DJ8-6922-ECC88-50s-/142310482282
 
Philips Miniwatt E88CC single 0 bids 31 minutes left
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-X-TUBE-PHILIPS-MINIWATT-6922-E88CC-GOLD-PIN-MADE-IN-HOLLAND-TESTED-/222436698375

 

[8761454]

My 1956 Eindhoven seems to have settled down a little more, the noise is pretty much gone after it warms up, just not sure how long these tubes will last
 
Tried to roll my 1959 Heerlen D-getters back to conserve the life of the Eindhovens but immediately rolled the Eindhovens back, the Heerlen that I used to love just sound boring compare to the Eindhovens, hopefully I will be able to find something else that sounds comparable before they die..........

 

[TK16]

  My 1956 Eindhoven seems to have settled down a little more, the noise is pretty much gone after it warms up, just not sure how long these tubes will last
 
Tried to roll my 1959 Heerlen D-getters back to conserve the life of the Eindhovens but immediately rolled the Eindhovens back, the Heerlen that I used to love just sound boring compare to the Eindhovens, hopefully I will be able to find something else that sounds comparable before they die..........

I had the same experience exactly, all those Holland tubes I enjoyed so much before I got the PW I only run in my dac now, got Heerlen CCa in there now. In my amp I run the PW. Though these Heerlen 1958 6922 d-getters sound absolutely fantastic in my amp. At the 120 hr mark. Come 200 hours these are going in my dac for testing. If those 1959 d-getters are ECC88`s, 6922/E88CC d-getters should sound much better.

 

[8761454]

  I had the same experience exactly, all those Holland tubes I enjoyed so much before I got the PW I only run in my dac now, got Heerlen CCa in there now. In my amp I run the PW. Though these Heerlen 1958 6922 d-getters sound absolutely fantastic in my amp. At the 120 hr mark. Come 200 hours these are going in my dac for testing. If those 1959 d-getters are ECC88`s, 6922/E88CC d-getters should sound much better.

Yeah my 1959 are ECC88s, I liked them better than my other Heerlen E88CCs from the 60s, they are more airy with better separation and the bass is tighter too
 
I was going to get those E88CC D getter that you got but thought I should wait for a good deal on PWs lol
 
hopefully something will come along before I blow my all money on a Yggy

 

[TK16]

  Yeah my 1959 are ECC88s, I liked them better than my other Heerlen E88CCs from the 60s, they are more airy with better separation and the bass is tighter too
 
I was going to get those E88CC D getter that you got but thought I should wait for a good deal on PWs lol
 
hopefully something will come along before I blow my all money on a Yggy

Not buying my d-getters was a very wise decision.

 

[8761454]

  Not buying my d-getters was a very wise decision.

lol

 

[billerb1]

 

  I had the same experience exactly, all those Holland tubes I enjoyed so much before I got the PW I only run in my dac now, got Heerlen CCa in there now. In my amp I run the PW. Though these Heerlen 1958 6922 d-getters sound absolutely fantastic in my amp. At the 120 hr mark. Come 200 hours these are going in my dac for testing. If those 1959 d-getters are ECC88`s, 6922/E88CC d-getters should sound much better.

Yeah my 1959 are ECC88s, I liked them better than my other Heerlen E88CCs from the 60s, they are more airy with better separation and the bass is tighter too
 
I was going to get those E88CC D getter that you got but thought I should wait for a good deal on PWs lol
 
hopefully something will come along before I blow my all money on a Yggy

 
These red label '59 Heerlen Valvo D-Getters from Kolkoo are the real deal.  I have a pair and they are much in line with your description of your '59 ECC88's.  Mine are a different breed of cat than any of my other Heerlens, PW's or otherwise. It's a very high quality sound.  It's like a Heerlen with a nice touch of Telefunken thrown in.  Beautiful tubes.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/821126/final-pricedrop-fs-valvo-philips-amperex-e88cc-6922-red-print-d-getter-1959-heerlen-holland-factory-matched-pairs

 

[sharktopus]

So quick question.  I bought my Lry 2 second hand, and the seller said that they come with the stock tubes from schiit.  When I look on schiit's website, the replacement tubes that they show have a GE logo.  Mine however, only say "6BZ7 6BQ7A Canada”.  Does anyone know what tubes these are, or what the ones in schiit's photo are?

 

[Hansolo76]

So quick question.  I bought my Lry 2 second hand, and the seller said that they come with the stock tubes from schiit.  When I look on schiit's website, the replacement tubes that they show have a GE logo.  Mine however, only say "6BZ7 6BQ7A Canada”.  Does anyone know what tubes these are, or what the ones in schiit's photo are?

I just recently purchased a Lyr 2 brand new and what you described is the same tubes that came with mine. I did do some looking around online and the only comparison that I have found is the shape around the lettering on the tubes I got is very similar to some RCA 6BZ7 tubes. It leads me to think that they may be RCAs that were produced in Canada, but that is purely an educated guess at best.

 

[tjl5709]

I just recently purchased a Lyr 2 brand new and what you described is the same tubes that came with mine. I did do some looking around online and the only comparison that I have found is the shape around the lettering on the tubes I got is very similar to some RCA 6BZ7 tubes. It leads me to think that they may be RCAs that were produced in Canada, but that is purely an educated guess at best.

You have the stock tubes. Since your on this thread, you are looking to upgrade or move to a new sound signature. They should put a warning on this thread. Tube rolling is addictive and bad for your wallet. You have been warned.

 

[Oskari]

I just recently purchased a Lyr 2 brand new and what you described is the same tubes that came with mine. I did do some looking around online and the only comparison that I have found is the shape around the lettering on the tubes I got is very similar to some RCA 6BZ7 tubes. It leads me to think that they may be RCAs that were produced in Canada, but that is purely an educated guess at best.

I'd bet on the Radio Valve Company of Canada Ltd. (RVC). They made tubes in Toronto.

 

[TK16]

   
These red label '59 Heerlen Valvo D-Getters from Kolkoo are the real deal.  I have a pair and they are much in line with your description of your '59 ECC88's.  Mine are a different breed of cat than any of my other Heerlens, PW's or otherwise. It's a very high quality sound.  It's like a Heerlen with a nice touch of Telefunken thrown in.  Beautiful tubes.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/821126/final-pricedrop-fs-valvo-philips-amperex-e88cc-6922-red-print-d-getter-1959-heerlen-holland-factory-matched-pairs

Plus 1!, these 7L4 d-getter Heerlens are different than any of the more than a dozen Heerlens I have rolled, including the PW. Detailed, punchy, dynamic, from top to bottom excellent tone, especially the highs. Well worth the asking price that Ivan is selling them for.

 

[8761454]

   
These red label '59 Heerlen Valvo D-Getters from Kolkoo are the real deal.  I have a pair and they are much in line with your description of your '59 ECC88's.  Mine are a different breed of cat than any of my other Heerlens, PW's or otherwise. It's a very high quality sound.  It's like a Heerlen with a nice touch of Telefunken thrown in.  Beautiful tubes.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/821126/final-pricedrop-fs-valvo-philips-amperex-e88cc-6922-red-print-d-getter-1959-heerlen-holland-factory-matched-pairs

 
 

  Plus 1!, these 7L4 d-getter Heerlens are different than any of the more than a dozen Heerlens I have rolled, including the PW. Detailed, punchy, dynamic, from top to bottom excellent tone, especially the highs. Well worth the asking price that Ivan is selling them for.

 
If there is a way to check you would see me look at those tubes everyday for the last few months! I think I checked that page 3 times before billerb1 posted the link yesterday!
 
I keep backing off because I want to get close to NOS testing tubes if possible just in case if I really like the sound I won't have to go crazy searching for backup (exactly what I am doing right now for the Eindhovens)

 

[Guidostrunk]

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