Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers
Dec 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM Post #841 of 23,494
I'm looking to upgrade for around $150 for my HE-500.  The choices are:

1968 Telefunken ECC88
1959 Bugle Boy D getter 6DJ8
Forget tubes altogether and get the Emotiva mini-X a-100 speaker amp

Anyone have experience with these and the HE-500?


If you are thinking of getting a taste of the famous Telefunken mids, (yes they are gorgeous BTW), on a tight budget, I suggest getting a pair of Telefunken PCC88s instead.

The sonics are the same. Telefunken PCC88s are much cheaper than the ECC88 version.
Same tube, just slightly different heater spec.
 
Dec 3, 2013 at 1:27 PM Post #842 of 23,494
If you are thinking of getting a taste of the famous Telefunken mids, (yes they are gorgeous BTW), on a tight budget, I suggest getting a pair of Telefunken PCC88s instead.

The sonics are the same. Telefunken PCC88s are much cheaper than the ECC88 version.
Same tube, just slightly different heater spec.


What about these Telefunken ECC88s from Mercedesman?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TELEFUNKEN-6DJ8-ECC88-VACUUM-TUBE-1968-DIAMOND-MATCHED-PAIR-PRECISE-TONE-417-/321265930260?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4accf11014

What is the going rate for the PCC88s?
 
Dec 3, 2013 at 2:21 PM Post #843 of 23,494


On Ebay, you should be able to get a pair of Tfk <> PCC88s for around $100 max.

It is Ebay after all so it is possible to get a pair of those PCC88 tubes for much less.

BTW, some Telefunkens were actually made by Siemens.
As long as the tubes have a <> at the bottom, it should be the real deal.
 
Dec 3, 2013 at 10:41 PM Post #844 of 23,494
I have to give some love to the Telefunkens. The recent discussion prompted me to roll these back in tonight. First time listening to them on the HD650's. The top end extension which made these a poor fit for the HE400's, plays well with the HD650. Beautifully clear treble, wide soundstage, well controlled bass- a very clean and accurate presentation. A different flavor than Amperex- Telefunken doesn't have the tubey warmth- the euphony of Amperex, but perhaps they're more neutral. So a different, although very enjoyable flavor. A good example how one tube can be a mismatch with one headphone (HE400) and fit well with another (HD650).
 
Dec 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM Post #847 of 23,494
I definitely will. I appreciate all the info.

No problems - you'll have a couple of enjoyable weeks ahead of you ... 
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Dec 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM Post #848 of 23,494
  No problems - you'll have a couple of enjoyable weeks ahead of you ... 
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While I will have a couple of painful weeks ahead of me.  Tried to fire up the Lyr this morning... nada.  Went through all the motions, but it's well and truly dead.  So, back it goes.
 
That means no BB Heteros vs. OGs Battle To The Death (the losers were going to be sacrificed... or the winners, if I went the Maya ball game route :wink:
 
So, you can stop 
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Don't want you to get fat 
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Dec 4, 2013 at 1:36 PM Post #849 of 23,494
   
While I will have a couple of painful weeks ahead of me.  Tried to fire up the Lyr this morning... nada.  Went through all the motions, but it's well and truly dead.  So, back it goes.
 
That means no BB Heteros vs. OGs Battle To The Death (the losers were going to be sacrificed... or the winners, if I went the Maya ball game route :wink:
 
So, you can stop 
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Don't want you to get fat 
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Ah - bad news, man !!  In the next couple of weeks I'll try to do a death match for you on the Audeze LCD-2's ... heck I might even break out the 701's and give you a headstart for when the amp gets back to you 
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Dec 4, 2013 at 5:16 PM Post #850 of 23,494
  Ah - bad news, man !!  In the next couple of weeks I'll try to do a death match for you on the Audeze LCD-2's ... heck I might even break out the 701's and give you a headstart for when the amp gets back to you 
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Cheers 
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Dropped the Lyr off at FedEx, so hopefully no more than two weeks to get it back.  Time to see how various other headphone amps I have can drive the HE-500.  That oughta be a very unsatisfying hour or so 
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Dec 5, 2013 at 1:11 PM Post #851 of 23,494
  I'm looking to upgrade for around $150 for my HE-500.  The choices are:
 
1968 Telefunken ECC88
1959 Bugle Boy D getter 6DJ8
Forget tubes altogether and get the Emotiva mini-X a-100 speaker amp
 
Anyone have experience with these and the HE-500?


The '59 D-getter Bugle Boys are in my Top 3 favorites with the HE-500.
 
They have very solid, tight bass, silky-smooth mids and a treble airy-ness that the '60 and later BB halo getters don't have, IMO.
 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/673709/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers#post_9642339
 
Dec 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM Post #852 of 23,494
The '59 D-getter Bugle Boys are in my Top 3 favorites with the HE-500.

They have very solid, tight bass, silky-smooth mids and a treble airy-ness that the '60 and later BB halo getters don't have, IMO.


http://www.head-fi.org/t/673709/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers#post_9642339


Thanks. Mercedesman said that the Telefunkens are better for classical music, and the D getters for other genres. Since I don't listen to classical I think I'll go with the BBs. Does your pair have any microphonic issues?
 
Dec 5, 2013 at 2:46 PM Post #853 of 23,494
 
The '59 D-getter Bugle Boys are in my Top 3 favorites with the HE-500.
 
They have very solid, tight bass, silky-smooth mids and a treble airy-ness that the '60 and later BB halo getters don't have, IMO.
 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/673709/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers#post_9642339


What is your top 3? I'm looking to buy tubes for my HE-500. All the advice is welcome since I'm new to tuberolling.
 
I have Amperex Orange Globes now and I really like the sound.
 
Dec 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM Post #854 of 23,494
Thanks. Mercedesman said that the Telefunkens are better for classical music, and the D getters for other genres. Since I don't listen to classical I think I'll go with the BBs. Does your pair have any microphonic issues?


No, very quiet....except when my cell phone is too close.
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Dec 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM Post #855 of 23,494
 
What is your top 3? I'm looking to buy tubes for my HE-500. All the advice is welcome since I'm new to tuberolling.
 
I have Amperex Orange Globes now and I really like the sound.


Lorenz PCC88 (good luck finding these!)
'59 D-getter Bugle Boys
'65 Amperex USN-CEP
 
For a change, I also like the Mullard CV-2493. It's a different sound, though.
 
Cheers!
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