Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers

[CFGamescape]

Bummer, the tube pliers I bought on eBay snapped on third use. The plier end where the rubber is wrapped around snapped while I was grabbing a tube to pull out. Lame.
 
Double bummer, one of my cheapo socket savers has a loose pin. I don't know if it'll work or not, but I don't want to risk the pin getting stuck in the socket. I guess I can't recommend the cheap socket savers because of that (risk > reward).
 
I think I'll just go with Jason's word that the sockets in the Lyr 2 are essentially bulletproof; I'll use plastic wrap or something grabby on tubes to roll going forward.

 

[reddog]

Bummer, the tube pliers I bought on eBay snapped on third use. The plier end where the rubber is wrapped around snapped while I was grabbing a tube to pull out. Lame.

Double bummer, one of my cheapo socket savers has a loose pin. I don't know if it'll work or not, but I don't want to risk the pin getting stuck in the socket. I guess I can't recommend the cheap socket savers because of that (risk > reward).

I think I'll just go with Jason's word that the sockets in the Lyr 2 are essentially bulletproof; I'll use plastic wrap or something grabby on tubes to roll going forward.

Sorry to hear your tube pliers died, that really sucks. However I did not no Jason said the sockets on the Lyr 2 were "bullet proof". That is nice to know. Thanks for sharing the information. I will put my socket savers in my MJ2. Please have a good day.

 

[CFGamescape]

Sorry to hear your tube pliers died, that really sucks. However I did not no Jason said the sockets on the Lyr 2 were "bullet proof". That is nice to know. Thanks for sharing the information. I will put my socket savers in my MJ2. Please have a good day.

Thank you, sir. Here is Jason's post: http://www.head-fi.org/t/673709/schiit-lyr-tube-rollers/8220#post_12182044
 
He did not use the words "bulletproof," that was just me interpreting his words as such. Hence, "essentially."
 
Rock on.

 

[kolkoo]

Got a pair of these bad boys
 
http://www.tubemonger.com/Tesla_NOT_JJ_MPs_MINT_NOS_1970s_80s_E88CC_6922_p/114.htm
 
(Not from this seller)
 
Close emission measurements from the seller and also close enough after I remeasured 'em on Mu, Gm and Ra.
 
They sound pretty great! In fact pretty damn great I've been listening to the HGs ( a really good pair as well) past day and after switching to these I don't feel like much is missing. I feel like this could be a really great budget option for people. I've read people compare the HGs to Telefunken tubes and I've also read comparisons about these Teslas to Telefunken as well. The similarity in sound is there and is very pleasant to listen to, maybe they have less detail but who knows - I don't have a mega detailed source (Got Bifrost Multibit + Lyr 2 + LCD-2 pre-f and MrSpeakers AlphaDogs ). Might get me a few more pairs if I can. They are a bit more tiring than the HGs though - maybe this will disappear with burnin who knows. (I'm only about 5 hours into these, it's completely possible that after burnin they sound really bad )

 

[oAmadeuso]

Been trying out a pair of '66 RCA tubes that someone in the Schiity Lyr 2 :impressions thread posted a link to.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/721542/new-schiit-lyr-2-impressions/1485#post_12276617
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371534996813
 
Very bassy with some boom, not as musical as the Heerleens which I miss nut nice clear sound stage and clear highs.
Mids a little recessed.
 
Won't be my main tube I think as a prefer a more musical one but they're suiting Dub very nicely.
Time to crack out my Lee "Scratch" Perry collection I think!

 

[Campari]

I'm considering to replace my Asgård 2 with Lyr 2. I Have Grado RS1i and I didn't found many replies about tube rolling for Grados, so I'm asking if anyone knows is there good tubes for Grados? Let's say under 100$ for example. As you may know Grados are bright so I woudn't want get them any more brighter. Don't get me wrong. I like bright headphones but obiviously too much is too much. So any tips about tubes for Grados and overall Lyr 2 working with Grados is appreciated.

 

[Guidostrunk]

For Grados, I always recommend warm tubes. Amperex Orange globes, or Mullard Blackburns. You should have no problems finding a nice set under $100. When I get time, I'll pm you a few links. Mercedesman on ebay is the goto guy on ebay for the Orange globes.

Cheers

I'm considering to replace my Asgård 2 with Lyr 2. I Have Grado RS1i and I didn't found many replies about tube rolling for Grados, so I'm asking if anyone knows is there good tubes for Grados? Let's say under 100$ for example. As you may know Grados are bright so I woudn't want get them any more brighter. Don't get me wrong. I like bright headphones but obiviously too much is too much. So any tips about tubes for Grados and overall Lyr 2 working with Grados is appreciated.

 

[billerb1]

I'm considering to replace my Asgård 2 with Lyr 2. I Have Grado RS1i and I didn't found many replies about tube rolling for Grados, so I'm asking if anyone knows is there good tubes for Grados? Let's say under 100$ for example. As you may know Grados are bright so I woudn't want get them any more brighter. Don't get me wrong. I like bright headphones but obiviously too much is too much. So any tips about tubes for Grados and overall Lyr 2 working with Grados is appreciated.

 


Just go out and find a pair of Heerlen, Holland made Philips or Valvo E188CC's and get on with your life.
You can find a pair for around $100 or less if you're patient. If you're not into patience, you can get a pair of the E88CC versions for between $50-$80. You can thank me later. Guidostrunk will tell you the same thing if you put a gun to his head.

 

[Guidostrunk]

+100 LOL. Being patient is the key. And don't be afraid if you have to spend a tad more. It's well worth it IMO.

I'm considering to replace my Asgård 2 with Lyr 2. I Have Grado RS1i and I didn't found many replies about tube rolling for Grados, so I'm asking if anyone knows is there good tubes for Grados? Let's say under 100$ for example. As you may know Grados are bright so I woudn't want get them any more brighter. Don't get me wrong. I like bright headphones but obiviously too much is too much. So any tips about tubes for Grados and overall Lyr 2 working with Grados is appreciated.

 


Just go out and find a pair of Heerlen, Holland made Philips or Valvo E188CC's and get on with your life.
You can find a pair for around $100 or less if you're patient. If you're not into patience, you can get a pair of the E88CC versions for between $50-$80. You can thank me later. Guidostrunk will tell you the same thing if you put a gun to his head.

 

[Campari]

Thanks for all advices. I'm in no hurry. After all I have to first buy Lyr 2 and then compare it with stock tubes to my current Asgard 2. Maybe then I can throw my self in to tube rolling madness mayhem if Lyr 2 beats A2. It's probably wise to do some back round work and gather useful information and options before hand. Let's see where this leads.

 


 

 

[Liu Junyuan]

  Thanks for all advices. I'm in no hurry. After all I have to first buy Lyr 2 and then compare it with stock tubes to my current Asgard 2. Maybe then I can throw my self in to tube rolling madness mayhem if Lyr 2 beats A2. It's probably wise to do some back round work and gather useful information and options before hand. Let's see where this leads.

 
 
 
 

I agree with billerb1 above. You don't need to involve yourself in "tube rolling madness" at all. It is possible to just target specific tubes and stop there. By the time you spend too much money on tubes, you can find yourself able to afford the Mjolnir 2 and balanced cables to go with it.
 
I am writing from experience on this, lol.
 
Also, I mean no offense to those who legitimately enjoy the process of experimenting with tubes.

 

[tvnosaint]

+1 I've got hundreds if not thousands in tubes I may never use again. The current mainstays of this thread have paid the price of knowledge by experience. Get some heerlens if you enjoy holographic soundstage nice detail and pretty sweet mids.spend a little more up front to save money in the long run. Just make sure they test well and are matched. Same for lush weighty mullards or clinical but very detailed 74 reflektors which also have a big meaty bass. Miniwatts are pretty much universally revered here .

 

[ThurstonX]

That's all well and good, if you can ignore that nagging voice saying, Yes, these are nice, but I still haven't tried those.  

 

[Liu Junyuan]

Please forgive any miscommunication on my part.

What I meant to say was that one need not feel compelled into going into "tube rolling madness" ; it is possible to exploit the hard-earned information others have provided on this thread to minimze regretful purchases and to obtain a sweet-sounding setup.

On the other hand, there is nothing like experimenting with things for oneself, and the Lyr offers a really safe platform for that.

I was a bit more careful with my Lyr since I didnt have a choice. I think I had only four pairs of tubes, in addition to stock, and I didnt get my 75 Reflektors until after selling it off.
But with my 339, I could have been close to a Zana Deux S for the amount of money spent on tubes, which may very well have brought me into a different sonic category altogether.

Anyways, not trying to turn this into a moral argument. I really learned a lot from people on this thread and in other threads here. If you have not read any of posts from gibosi, I would recommend it, as he is a veritable historian and wizard for all-things tube--in addition to the several outstanding posters here (such as Thurston, Bob, and several others too long to list).

But newcomers to the Lyr 2 need not feel like they have no choice but to buy many sets of tubes to have a great experience. Just know that stock, unlike those on the Vallhalla 2, are not something you should probably settle for in the long-term (I found the V2 much more impervious to the effects of tube-rolling changes than the Lyr).

 

[ThurstonX]

Please forgive any miscommunication on my part.
 

Spoiler: the rest of an, as always, excellent post...

What I meant to say was that one need not feel compelled into going into "tube rolling madness" ; it is possible to exploit the hard-earned information others have provided on this thread to minimze regretful purchases and to obtain a sweet-sounding setup.

On the other hand, there is nothing like experimenting with things for oneself, and the Lyr offers a really safe platform for that.

I was a bit more careful with my Lyr since I didnt have a choice. I think I had only four pairs of tubes, in addition to stock, and I didnt get my 75 Reflektors until after selling it off.
But with my 339, I could have been close to a Zana Deux S for the amount of money spent on tubes, which may very well have brought me into a different sonic category altogether.

Anyways, not trying to turn this into a moral argument. I really learned a lot from people on this thread and in other threads here. If you have not read any of posts from @gibosi, I would recommend it, as he is a veritable historian and wizard for all-things tube--in addition to the several outstanding posters here (such as Thurston, Bob, and several others too long to list).

But newcomers to the Lyr 2 need not feel like they have no choice but to buy many sets of tubes to have a great experience. Just know that stock, unlike those on the Vallhalla 2, are not something you should probably settle for in the long-term (I found the V2 much more impervious to the effects of tube-rolling changes than the Lyr).

 

 
LOL, if anyone should be 

 it's me, but I couldn't resist.  Spending that kind of money is a personal choice, of course; hopefully one matched to one's temperament.  From a practical standpoint, I'm in complete agreement.  A couple three pairs based on (hopefully) trusted posters can save one a lot of time, money and grief.
 
OTOH, however, it is now the Year of the Monkey.  I couldn't resist a bit of mischief.
 
And Rangy would like to remind everyone that he is not a monkey!