Schiit Lyr Tube Rollers

Oct 29, 2015 at 9:52 AM Post #7,786 of 23,504
   
I am very partial to the Holland made Philips Miniwatts so I'd spend the $150 on the E188CC's or, if you want to hedge your bets, $75 on the E88CC's.
But that's me.  You may very well spend the money and end up preferring your French Darios.

Got me tempted now...
I'll keep my eyes out for some of those E188CC's  whilst trying to find cheap 60's Telefunken greys,
 
Oct 29, 2015 at 12:04 PM Post #7,788 of 23,504
Here's a sweet pair of 63's, to keep an eye on. I'd pay $150 for sure.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=391304098107&alt=web

Well there's a turnip for the books!
Looking at a pair of 68's by the same seller right now.
 
How do you guys work out the decade? Really cannot find that info.
Digit after the factory code is the "least significant digit but no clue to the decad...
 
Oct 29, 2015 at 12:26 PM Post #7,789 of 23,504
  Well there's a turnip for the books!
Looking at a pair of 68's by the same seller right now.
 
How do you guys work out the decade? Really cannot find that info.
Digit after the factory code is the "least significant digit but no clue to the decad...


The number after the delta symbol is the year.  VR = type of tube, 6 = revision of tube type,  delta symbol = ​ plant of manufacture, 3 = year, K4= month/week.
 
Decade you need to look at the revision.  VR0 would be first version and oldest tube of that type from that factory.
 
Oct 29, 2015 at 12:56 PM Post #7,790 of 23,504
 
 
Decade you need to look at the revision.  VR0 would be first version and oldest tube of that type from that factory.

 
That's the tricky bit for me.
Once I get more familiar with tubes and how many revisions i'll know if a tube is 53, 63 or 73
 
Oct 29, 2015 at 1:03 PM Post #7,791 of 23,504
 
That's the tricky bit for me.
Once I get more familiar with tubes and how many revisions i'll know if a tube is 53, 63 or 73

 


Not positive but I think VR0 starts 1956 or a little later and VR7 takes you to late '60's....
 
Oct 29, 2015 at 1:38 PM Post #7,792 of 23,504
 
   
That's the tricky bit for me.
Once I get more familiar with tubes and how many revisions i'll know if a tube is 53, 63 or 73

 


Not positive but I think VR0 starts 1956 or a little later and VR7 takes you to late '60's....


That's how I read them... ​
 
Oct 29, 2015 at 2:21 PM Post #7,793 of 23,504
The 75 reflektors are mos def more refined than these miniwatts. But the minis are so much more fun sounding. The forward mids and overall vivid presentation is a great switch up. A tube more for the stooges than the Beatles .
 
Oct 29, 2015 at 10:25 PM Post #7,795 of 23,504
The 75 reflektors are mos def more refined than these miniwatts. But the minis are so much more fun sounding. The forward mids and overall vivid presentation is a great switch up. A tube more for the stooges than the Beatles .


 
"It's all about the Miniwatts for me...nyuk, nyuk, nyuk !!!!"
 
Oct 29, 2015 at 11:55 PM Post #7,796 of 23,504
That would be funny . I was referring to Iggy & the Stooges. But never underestimate the Howard brothers striking melodies
 
Oct 30, 2015 at 1:31 AM Post #7,798 of 23,504
Yeah , in all honesty I left it as the stooges for that ambiguity. The tough part was putting the Beatles in there. I stand by the statement though. The miniwatts are a nice flavor for the lyr, particularly with aggressive sounding music. I don't know how many hours they have on them. I do know it's a little gritty until they warm up. Then they're just damn fun. I am interested in the e188ccs too because of them. But I just shot my wad on an r2r dac. These boxes just keep stacking up and the mrs is starting to notice. So tell me, are they that much better to you guys that have both ? Or just a different flavor again.
 
Oct 30, 2015 at 3:58 AM Post #7,799 of 23,504
More refined to my ears. Bigger, fuller, deeper, more holographic presentation. My Valvo Heerlen CCa's , have everything that the Siemens CCa's have , but with all that miniwatt , midrange, and the bass of a Mullard Blackburn. No tubes I've rolled come close to what my heerlens accomplish. They're the most holographic, speaker like , live venue sounding tubes , I've heard to date. At least that's what my ears tell me. YMMV.
Cheers
Yeah , in all honesty I left it as the stooges for that ambiguity. The tough part was putting the Beatles in there. I stand by the statement though. The miniwatts are a nice flavor for the lyr, particularly with aggressive sounding music. I don't know how many hours they have on them. I do know it's a little gritty until they warm up. Then they're just damn fun. I am interested in the e188ccs too because of them. But I just shot my wad on an r2r dac. These boxes just keep stacking up and the mrs is starting to notice. So tell me, are they that much better to you guys that have both ? Or just a different flavor again.
 
Oct 30, 2015 at 4:22 AM Post #7,800 of 23,504
The Dumonts for sale from @lekoross are a complete steal at this price. I used to own them, and they do about 85 to 90% of what my Valvos do. Before the Valvos, they were my favorite tube, beating out everything I heard prior.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/785573/e188cc-e88cc-tubes-for-sale-tested
Yeah , in all honesty I left it as the stooges for that ambiguity. The tough part was putting the Beatles in there. I stand by the statement though. The miniwatts are a nice flavor for the lyr, particularly with aggressive sounding music. I don't know how many hours they have on them. I do know it's a little gritty until they warm up. Then they're just damn fun. I am interested in the e188ccs too because of them. But I just shot my wad on an r2r dac. These boxes just keep stacking up and the mrs is starting to notice. So tell me, are they that much better to you guys that have both ? Or just a different flavor again.
 

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