[corndog71]

My Pacer was blue. Haven't been able to find a photo (yet), it predated digital cameras.
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Like this?

 

[golfbravobravo]

So, no Picking up Paw-Paws and putting them in you pocket?

Give them to Baloo.......

 

[bcowen]

There's many histories of the tube industry. You can still use the internet as a research tool - despite it's recent redeployment for data-mining and disinformation usage.

The 40s and early 50s were the golden age of tubes. The state of the art. Wikipedia has some great articles of many tube manufacturers. Tube company histories at: RadioMuseum.org, r-type.org. Specialist sites: VintageSylvania.net, tubebooks.org, mullard.org. Check out the tube rolling threads here for fascinating tidbits of tube lore... most will state the preference for early versions of almost any tube type vs later production. Could be a sonic mass hallucination. So, there's that.

Due to the emergence of eveel solid sand devices, eventually all great tube companies were driven out of the market or bought out by corporate conglomerates, GE buying KenRad in the 40s. In the 50s Phillips took over almost all the great tube manufacturers of Europe and Mullard in England.

Later Phillips bought out Sylvania's tube division. The Phillips ECG 12AU7 of the 70s becoming notorious on @bcowen's list of the most horrid.

LOL! GE did it to KenRad in 1945, and then Philips eventually followed suit. While I have a reputation for not being a fan of GE tubes, GE did at least have some tube types that were pretty respectable. And the GE types I don't like are just bland and boring, not nasty sounding. Philips took a different approach and made the ECG labeled tubes nasty sounding. If ECG's were the only tubes available to use, my system would be all solid-state.

My opinion, my ears, so YMMV applies here and maybe more than normal....

 

[Adam Balm]

Like this?

Awesome.

 

[bcowen]

So, basically, Phillips killed the tube market.

Philips made us start listening to Russian tubes.

And once we started looking there, lo and behold some tremendously good sounding tubes were discovered, like the Melz 1578. I'd say Fotons too, but don't want to get too carried away.

 

[33na3rd]

“Travesia”, by Ryuichi Sakamoto.

This double LP is very nice, and currently on sale at Amazon.

 

[bcowen]

What adapter do u guys use for Vali 2+ to try 12Au7's?

6922 to 12au7

Saw this one: Any good etc..
Alex

I haven't ever tried that brand myself, but it will probably work just fine. I usually get the noval-to-noval base adapters from Xuling on Ebay. Haven't ever had any problem with them. But there are lots of Chinese vendors for these adapters, and who knows....they might all be made by the same outfit and just sold through multiple storefronts.

 

[KoshNaranek]

So, basically, Phillips killed the tube market.

Phillips killed a lot of things



https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices...-ventilators-bipap-machines-and-cpap-machines

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[Paladin79]

Look for "line level out" (bypasses the volume knob) or even better "tape loop" or "effects loop" so you can monitor the recording. Almost no modern amps/preamps have those any more, so you may have to go vintage (@Paladin79 might have some suggestions). I don't believe any schiit amps/pres even have line level out nevermind loops.
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I will give it some thought early tomorrow unless someone else answers it first.

 

[Paladin79]

LOL! GE did it to KenRad in 1945, and then Philips eventually followed suit. While I have a reputation for not being a fan of GE tubes, GE did at least have some tube types that were pretty respectable. And the GE types I don't like are just bland and boring, not nasty sounding. Philips took a different approach and made the ECG labeled tubes nasty sounding. If ECG's were the only tubes available to use, my system would be all solid-state.

My opinion, my ears, so YMMV applies here and maybe more than normal....

Why do I feel like I am experiencing Deja vu all over again?

 

[sixergixer]

“Travesia”, by Ryuichi Sakamoto.

This double LP is very nice, and currently on sale at Amazon.

Dang, 62% off!

 

[corndog71]

This is always a good watch.

 

[bcowen]

Why do I feel like I am experiencing Deja vu all over again?

Because you remembered something you thought you had forgotten, but then remembered you didn't forget it. IIRC, anyway.

 

[Paladin79]

Philips made us start listening to Russian tubes.

And once we started looking there, lo and behold some tremendously good sounding tubes were discovered, like the Melz 1578. I'd say Fotons too, but don't want to get too carried away.

Well since I give credit where credit is due I think you mumbled something about Melz once so I looked into them. I am not sure you had heard one then so I tried to fix that later. No doubt your memory is different but I am telling this story.

 

[Paladin79]

Because you remembered something you thought you had forgotten, but then remembered you didn't forget it. IIRC, anyway.

OMG you are making sense or I am a bit buttered from enjoying some fine bourbon. ( buttered is my favorite term for feeling the effects of a couple drinks)