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Feb 21, 2024 at 1:39 PM Post #140,357 of 154,194
Don, does this mean that MIB is "too detailed" for headphone listening, and therefore OG A2 is a more pleasant music presentation for headphones?
I remember Jason writing, way back when, that he preferred Gumby for HP listening because Yggy, probably OG A1, sounded more "clinical."
Thanks, in advance. :)
Hi Dick, I would not say that. My digital sources connect through the balanced inputs of Loki Max; my phono preamp connects through Loki Max's SE inputs.
The balanced outputs of Loki Max feed my line preamplifier, and the SE outputs of Loki Max drive Mjolnir 3.

So - I can bypass Loki Max, turn off the line preamp, and listen to MiB directly with headphones, fed by my streamer or by Urd. I have listened to the HD820s with a balanced cable; the HD600s both balanced and single-ended, and a pair of Drop HD6XXes single ended.

In none of these situations did MiB ever sound too bright, or too etched. It just sounds amazing.

Upstairs, Yggy OG A2 drives a Jotunheim 1 via a balanced connection (@Ripper2860 says I can't call Joti 1 an OG... or was that @Rensek ? :laughing: :wink:).

Yes I know that Joti 1 has a different sonic signature than MJ3, but... all of my 'phones sound great on both rigs.

You can't go wrong with any Yggy, IMHO. Now that I've had some time to sleep on the post I made last night to @adias , I think I'll revise it a bit:

  • Yggy OG (the one with the Analog Devices chipset) is a spectacular performer in both the time and frequency domains.
  • Yggy MiB (the one with the TI 11001B chipset) is just as spectacular w/r/t time domain, and even better in terms of top-end clarity and "open-ness".
You'll notice that I didn't mention p___k___ at all. :p
 
Feb 21, 2024 at 1:42 PM Post #140,358 of 154,194
I know right! I remember that same $1029/lb coffee was being sold at a coffee shop for $100 a cup. Makes even a caviar feel cheap haha. Most expensive one I've tried last year was the Typica Mejorado coffee that were priced at $200 per 10oz. This is one of the bane that keeps me broke aside from this hobby haha



I do not want to add coffee to my list of unobtanium hobbies...
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Feb 21, 2024 at 1:43 PM Post #140,359 of 154,194
So, you're saying that my 805D's will love the MiB upgrade? :smiley_cat:

PS- My YGGY tour: OG (A1 in original chassis, first production run) >> OG (A2 in original chassis, a significant sonic upgrade) >> A2 in the "+" chassis with Unison to pair with URD (URD is a significant upgrade in sonics) >> MiB upgrade in "+" chassis? {My system, my ears my room, and so forth.}
I don't have 805Ds, but... I would venture "yes". :sunglasses:

And your Yggy tour looks like it has been a fun journey. I can't wait to hear what you think of MiB!
 
Feb 21, 2024 at 1:48 PM Post #140,360 of 154,194
Me, too. The level of musical detail in the "new" Gumby (pre-discontinuation, with Unison) is just tremendous. I'm using HD800 headphones that are highly resolving; all nuances in the music are revealed. I haven't looked to upgrade gear in years, except for the new Gumby that replaced my old, 5-yr old Gumby B which still works, it was just approaching its end of warranty. So it's the backup. :)
I'll send mine in soon for the Unison upgrade + warranty extension. It's currently Gen 2 USB. The DDC that I have, providing USB-C to Coax, provides a great signal but if something can be made better or upgraded, I'll do it.
 
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Feb 21, 2024 at 1:49 PM Post #140,361 of 154,194
I noticed that when other people hear it they instinctively tap their feet or start directing the ensemble with their hands; that tells me that it sounds real to them. Same recording played digitally through the Yggy or LP version played by my TT sound very similar - very close tone balance and sound field presentation. That tells me both are pretty right.
Absolutely! +100

Thanks to all who wrote about their MIB impressions and especially to @dstrimbu, someone I particularly respect!
Thank you, sir. The feeling is mutual!
 
Feb 21, 2024 at 1:52 PM Post #140,362 of 154,194
Feb 21, 2024 at 1:59 PM Post #140,363 of 154,194
Hi Dick, I would not say that. My digital sources connect through the balanced inputs of Loki Max; my phono preamp connects through Loki Max's SE inputs.
The balanced outputs of Loki Max feed my line preamplifier, and the SE outputs of Loki Max drive Mjolnir 3.

So - I can bypass Loki Max, turn off the line preamp, and listen to MiB directly with headphones, fed by my streamer or by Urd. I have listened to the HD820s with a balanced cable; the HD600s both balanced and single-ended, and a pair of Drop HD6XXes single ended.

In none of these situations did MiB ever sound too bright, or too etched. It just sounds amazing.

Upstairs, Yggy OG A2 drives a Jotunheim 1 via a balanced connection (@Ripper2860 says I can't call Joti 1 an OG... or was that @Rensek ? :laughing: :wink:).

Yes I know that Joti 1 has a different sonic signature than MJ3, but... all of my 'phones sound great on both rigs.

You can't go wrong with any Yggy, IMHO. Now that I've had some time to sleep on the post I made last night to @adias , I think I'll revise it a bit:

  • Yggy OG (the one with the Analog Devices chipset) is a spectacular performer in both the time and frequency domains.
  • Yggy MiB (the one with the TI 11001B chipset) is just as spectacular w/r/t time domain, and even better in terms of top-end clarity and "open-ness".
You'll notice that I didn't mention p___k___ at all. :p
Have you tried the MJ3 with the Yggy OG? I ask because when researching which Yggy to buy, I noticed a good number of reviewers went back to their Yggy OG for the different flavor.
 
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Feb 21, 2024 at 2:01 PM Post #140,364 of 154,194
I do not want to add coffee to my list of unobtanium hobbies...
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Those are only for bat crazy coffee-philes. There are plenty of normally produced coffees in the world that taste amazingly complex when drank as black
 
Feb 21, 2024 at 2:04 PM Post #140,365 of 154,194
I'm going out on a limb and say that you're likely not putting the Maxwell House K-Cup in the "taste amazingly complex when drank as black" category. :smirk:
 
Feb 21, 2024 at 2:04 PM Post #140,366 of 154,194
Feb 21, 2024 at 2:05 PM Post #140,367 of 154,194
I'm going out on a limb and say that you're likely not putting the Maxwell House K-Cup in the "taste amazingly complex when drank as black" category. :smirk:

If it's not freshly ground then yes, but if you grind it fresh before putting it on the K-Cup, they would taste really complex
 
Feb 21, 2024 at 2:23 PM Post #140,369 of 154,194
My impression too having heard LIM at the Schiittr (even though I would not say LIM is veiled, I would think it is more HiFi like) and then deciding to order a Yggy+ OG without having heard it.

What does HiFi-like mean?

I am a believer in instantaneous differences gain, catastrophe theory. When 2 items are different their differences are emphasized in one's mind. When I hear that MIB has a distinct treble region that worries me - it may be very nice, very clear, but it should not stand out. To be real nothing in the sound field should stand out.

Our brains are very good at deciphering differences for sure. But if the treble region only stands out when I'm comparing it to another DAC and not when just listening to it by itself I have to ask myself, which one is "right"; and why does it matter?
 
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Feb 21, 2024 at 2:25 PM Post #140,370 of 154,194
It doesn’t matter what kind of coffee/tea you’ve got, if it isn’t in the right cup. :sunglasses:

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My sister gave me a set of four, many years ago. Penguins, elephants, bears, and crocodiles. I had them for a couple of years before I noticed what they were actually up to!
 
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