[jonathan c]

Hey, I gave you triple wall! And now you want the wavy bits, too?

Hell, yes! I would pick these

over these

ANYTIME !!

 

[tin-ear]

Lack of redundancy isn't an issue with either company. At least not as far as I'm aware of.

Let's just say that one of them likes to solve all kinds of problems (real ones, potential ones, imagined ones) by throwing ever more technology at it, while the other prefers to solve certain things by relying on proven physics and reduction in complexity.

Both approaches have their benefits and downsides, obviously. But personally, after having heard those stories, I generally feel safer while traveling in products made by one of them, slightly less so in products made by the other.

That's the engineering side of things, mind you. Manufacturing, though, that's an entirely different story…

I have been annoyed many times over the years, by someone asserting disc brakes are better drum brakes, digital is better than analog, analog is better than digital, polypropylene is better than walnut, etc. It's possible to make lousy or state of the art using either of the two given choices. A fact ignored.

 

[JohnnyCanuck]

digital is better than analog, analog is better than digital

Agreed.


JC

 

[jonathan c]

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[jonathan c]

Have we returned to the 10” discussion without my noticing?

.... just think, for another 2" .... a LP (long player ) ....

 

[adias]

I have been annoyed many times over the years, by someone asserting disc brakes are better drum brakes, digital is better than analog, analog is better than digital, polypropylene is better than walnut, etc. It's possible to make lousy or state of the art using either of the two given choices. A fact ignored.

Try to use drum brakes in a modern sports car, say at speed in a tight track like Laguna Seca.

I prefer these:

 

[AstronomerXI]

"Worth it" is a very subjective thing. From the financial side, what are they selling for, and have they been tested (and any test data provided)? From the value side, whether you like them or not can only be determined by you.

I get that. They're fully tested, NOS, all good, price is under $40 for the pair.

I should have been more specific. Has any one used these in a Freya N or other gear? How do people rate them subjectively against other similar tubes? Do they have a good reputation amongst tubers? Does it bring out/recess vocals? Does it muddy the bass or bring clarity to it? Mids? Highs? Do they do a lot or very little to the sound? Etc.

 

[Ripper2860]

I expect @Ripper2860 to chime in with something along the lines of, "Is that a tube in your socket or are you just glad to see me?"

10" tube anyone.. :-D

FTFY...[Reg. TM; © bcowen: 2021.]

You must have me confused with @bcowen. He's the one that 'caresses' tubes.

 

[tin-ear]

Although I know little of high speed auto, I understand than another issue in choosing between two technologies is which one is more appropriate to the application.

 

[tin-ear]

There's an X Files episode where that features (I think the link is to the correct episode).

Yes, correct episode

Try to use drum brakes in a modern sports car, say at speed in a tight track like Laguna Seca.

I prefer these:

Oops, I failed to include this my reply. See my post above. (When I first saw that pic, my registered "a banana." Just for a second or two.)

 

[Ripper2860]

Just to clear up any possible confusion in advance:

The reality is @bcowen suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Alice in Wonderland disorder. A seemingly humorous yet debilitating combination.

Bless his heart.

 

[bcowen]

The reality is @bcowen suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Alice in Wonderland disorder. A seemingly humorous yet debilitating combination.

Bless his heart.

You're not qualified to use a flying lead tube. Put that back.

 

[Ripper2860]

Shouldn't you be moving or something?

 

[adias]

Yes, correct episode

Oops, I failed to include this my reply. See my post above. (When I first saw that pic, my registered "a banana." Just for a second or two.)

What you call banana is a rigid caliper pushing 8 pistons onto ceramic pads making contact with composite ceramic discs. Brembo is the company behind that. 60MPH to zero in a little over 100ft.

 

[Ableza]

Speaking of tubes, There's a pair of mid-late 1950's Tung Sol ECC88's I've found that are selling at a low-ish price. Are these worth it? They'd go into a Freya N.

I've had mixed results from vintage or even NOS tubes, so buyer beware. My favorite ECC88's are Genelec Gold Lions, which can be purchased new.