[sixergixer]

I guess I stand corrected. I thought it was F'in Raucous, which is the exact ticket for Marilyn Manson and other fine music.

Speaking of Fracking Raucous, if anybody has not yet heard Model/Actriz's debut album 'Dogsbody', change that soon, yeah? It will move you... probably literally depending on your speakers in play.

http://open.qobuz.com/album/zzjoa7sz58tuc

 

[Jason Stoddard]

I spent some time yesterday comparing the internal ES9028 DAC in Asgard 3 with my Denafrips Ares II. The Ares went back in the box and into the closet. Nothing wrong with the Ares but I prefer the internal DAC and I like having one less box on my very small desk. Nicely done pairing it with the DC Aeon RT.

Also opinion: a lot of that is Unison USB.

Unison USB works really really well with slightly sharp DACs, like the ESS line. IMO.

Dave disagrees with me on this. He still likes AKM. It's a wonderful world, full of an infinite variety of opinions!

 

[Ripper2860]

Question which may change my whole thought process...

Is there any subjective or objective difference in running a non-Unison USB device straight into Unison USB Yggy as opposed to running it into Unison-USB Urd and having Urd connected to Yggy Unison USB creating a Unison transmitter to Unison USB receiver pair? (Whew!)

Does Unison to Unison bring anything to the party in comarison to plain ole USB to Unison?

 

[Jason Stoddard]

Question which may change my whole thought process...

Is there any subjective or objective difference in running a non-Unison USB device straight into Unison USB Yggy as opposed to running it into Unison-USB Urd and having Urd connected to Yggy Unison USB creating a Unison transmitter to Unison USB receiver pair? (Whew!)

Does Unison to Unison bring anything to the party in comarison to plain ole USB to Unison?

In some people's opinion, yes.

But it doesn't matter unless it matters to you.

 

[Ripper2860]

Fair enough. Is there an engineering argument for or against Unison to Unison performing better?

 

[adydula]

@Jason Stoddard Whats the difference in the E9028's MODIUS implementation VS the add-on E9028 UPGRADE that goes in Asgard and Jot?
Size, power source, firmware?
OR Is it a wash?


Alex

 

[mystaiced]

Fair enough. Is there an engineering argument for or against Unison to Unison performing better?

Seems like you need to try and decide for yourself

I can see Mrs. Ripper purchasing you an Urd in the future.

 

[Ripper2860]

If there's not an engineering reason to support it possibly sounding better, I aint gonna waste my time or money or beg for a DDC/Unison USB Switcher. If there is, then it could be worth finding out if it translates into a sonic difference with my ears, gear, music.

As for an Urd - If I really listened to CDs enough I'd be all over one. 98% of my listening is via locally ripped CD content or Qobuz. My physical CD listening is not sufficient to warrant an Urd for me. Now if SOL was still around...

**Jason's probably not gonna say as it will just be seen as feeding into nervosa and he doesn't do that - at least not on purpose.

 

[artur9]

I'll take a look at Audirvana and Roon. If either can access network shares, I'll pick one.

I like roon for my use cases, multi-room playback, auto-metadata-rization of classical, on-the road playback with RAC (buggy that one).

I've been using its crossfeed DSP on my MJ3 and its nice. (They call their DSP features MUSE because they like to be annoying.)

 

[JamminVMI]

As long as your DAC has a Unison USB input, a dedicated DDC is completely pointless. Unison buffers and reclocks the incoming stream. If you want to connect multiple DACs to your [streamer/Mac/PC], plug them into separate USB ports or get a halfway decent USB hub if you're low on free ports, and you're golden.
If your DAC doesn't have Unison USB, get the upgrade board if it's a Schiit DAC, or reevaluate your DAC choices if it's not. ;p

And that's also why there's not really a market for those from Schiit's perspective. You can already get the same or better result a different way without the extra box. Unison IS your DDC, it's built right in. Essentially for free. That's the Schiit way, not by upselling you a bunch of extra boxes of questionable utility.

Exactly. I bought Urd as a CD transport, and I find the added usb INs to be a convenience. But I’d do the same thing with a good hub in the absence of Urd. And not everyone needs an Urd. But I do.

 

[bcowen]

Seems like you need to try and decide for yourself

I can see you purchasing one and hoping Mrs. Ripper doesn't kill you. Instantly.

FTFY.

 

[Ripper2860]

Actually, I hope it would be instant as opposed to the protracted torture she could opt to inflict before killing me.

 

[earnmyturns]

It is popular in high end for expensive but poorly made DACs. Because at that level DDC makes more difference.

There. Fixed it for you.

 

[Ripper2860]

Ok. Fired up my Schiit rig, queued up some tunes via Roon from a non-Unison USB RPi to Unison on Yggy and...

SUBLIME! I don't NEED no stinking Unison USB switcher/DDC. Can't say I won't WANT one again tomorrow, but for now I'm in audio BLISS and in NEED of nothing.

 

[artur9]

Unison. One port to rule them all. Screw the rest. (…including HDMI.)

no! BNC! it's a better connector.