Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up

[auvgeek]

 
Not quite. That's saying that you can already avoid fiddling with USB if you so wish...

I mentioned a line of products that do just that. I'm just saying it would be nice if it was all in one box, especially since ethernet doesn't suffer the same problems as USB.
 
Edited my original post to be more clear. Happy?

 

[jacal01]

Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
 

1. Digital Audio Streaming Era (2005-ish on)

 
Or possibly the father of all internet streamers, Pandora Radio based on the Music Genome Project, from about 2000 or so.

 

[Armaegis]

  @Jason Stoddard do you think the professional ethernet shizzle (AES67) will make its way into the consumer market?

 
 

 
FWIW, people have reported excellent results using Focusrite RedNet (an AES67 device) instead of USB:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/803111/xmos-xu208-usb-bridges-the-latest-gen-has-arrived/1830#post_12606908
http://www.head-fi.org/t/804153/life-after-yggdrasil/165#post_12581658
 
If that technology is the real deal, it would be awesome if Yggy could incorporate a direct ethernet input to avoid having an external AES67 device.
 
Edit: and the choice of SS or tube output would be sweet, too...

 
 

  IMO AES67 (and likely derivatives) is the future. It does away with so many issues and enables so many new scenarios it would be foolish to ignore it.

 
I think ethernet audio will really take hold in the next few years. There were a few sort of competing standards but it should all in theory be ratified now (give it another year or so to work out all the kinks)
 
Focusrite has got Dante
MOTU is all in with AVB
Prism is leaning to AVB
Echo Audio bowed out of the prosumer game a while ago but are supplying AVB to other companies
 
There are others I'm sure.

 

[ludvigrollover]

Check out Volumio for Raspberry Pi and some other boards. There are many others (search for "Volumio vs"). Also Mopidy (which is used by Volumio et al). Kodi (and OSMC) are more geared towards video, but have support for streaming audio as well.
 
It can be quite bewildering reading about all that, but all you need is a Raspi and an SD card and you can download and test which you like best.

 

[Billheiser]

  iv never heard of tidel or mqo ,is a streaming service and a new format sound like a con i cant see whats wrong with youtube .what id like to say and maybe this is a bit harsh but got a little mini mac recantly to play music and even though its well built and solid i hate this boold machine ,first of all theres apple which iv always disliked couse thay look so good but iv never been able to aford one and two cause they the biggest disgrace of a company iv ever come accross .they started in america still make the magority of there money there ,but have moved there tax to tax haven ireland ,manufacture notheing in there home country anymore its all make by slave in china or vetnam ,these are places where you cant read books ,everthing you read is cencored so the world you live in is one big lie,and i know when you read about the states things dont sound much better just look at those guys working in tysons chicken factory having to where nappys cause they cant go to the toilet ,but hay at least this stuff has a chance to come out in the states but in china , how many people comited suiside in apples factorys ,they just a f---- disgace of a company .but f------ bought a secondhand one and i could overlook all the slavery stuff if it was a great machine ,but its not thers just so many things that are wrong with or dont work at all with the operating system that i acctualy hate it and as soon as i got the time will add lynix and if that doesent work will find a cheap version of win 7 .anyway what id like to see from schiit is a small little cool portabe dac amp ,i was thinking of buying a little filo for 80 bucks but the thing is are the using slave labour to make these things and i dont know ,so ill wait for schiit

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That is not a useful contribution to this forum.

 

[shultzee]

 

  iv never heard of tidel or mqo ,is a streaming service and a new format sound like a con i cant see whats wrong with youtube .what id like to say and maybe this is a bit harsh but got a little mini mac recantly to play music and even though its well built and solid i hate this boold machine ,first of all theres apple which iv always disliked couse thay look so good but iv never been able to aford one and two cause they the biggest disgrace of a company iv ever come accross .they started in america still make the magority of there money there ,but have moved there tax to tax haven ireland ,manufacture notheing in there home country anymore its all make by slave in china or vetnam ,these are places where you cant read books ,everthing you read is cencored so the world you live in is one big lie,and i know when you read about the states things dont sound much better just look at those guys working in tysons chicken factory having to where nappys cause they cant go to the toilet ,but hay at least this stuff has a chance to come out in the states but in china , how many people comited suiside in apples factorys ,they just a f---- disgace of a company .but f------ bought a secondhand one and i could overlook all the slavery stuff if it was a great machine ,but its not thers just so many things that are wrong with or dont work at all with the operating system that i acctualy hate it and as soon as i got the time will add lynix and if that doesent work will find a cheap version of win 7 .anyway what id like to see from schiit is a small little cool portabe dac amp ,i was thinking of buying a little filo for 80 bucks but the thing is are the using slave labour to make these things and i dont know ,so ill wait for schiit

^
That is not a useful contribution to this forum.

lol

 

[AndreYew]

It seems to me that the MQA support question is moot: someone could just build an MQA decoder box (assuming the license allows this) that takes S/PDIF, AES or USB in, decodes the MQA, and outputs to S/PDIF or AES. No need to build it into a DAC, and since many DACs can take hi-res PCM already, this should work OK. You could even hack the Meridian Explorer if the DAC is separate from the MQA decoder inside, and transmit the decoded MQA data out in some form.

 

[yay101]

It can also be done in software anyway.

 

[yay101]

If anyone wants to read up and continue the discussion this is the most human readable book of mqa I have found, including a paper on the mqa technical method.

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/694-comprehensive-q-mqa-s-bob-stuart/

 

[madwolfa]

If anyone wants to read up and continue the discussion this is the most human readable book of mqa I have found, including a paper on the mqa technical method.

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/694-comprehensive-q-mqa-s-bob-stuart/

They talk alot about the damage caused by MP3, calling it the main cause of overall music quality downfall, but never seem to touch the topic of declining producing/mastering standards to begin with. Just baffling.

 

[lukeap69]

DAR on Schiiting on MQA
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2016/05/schiitting-on-mqa/

 

[madwolfa]

DAR on Schiiting on MQA
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2016/05/schiitting-on-mqa/

Recording and mastering decisions made in the studio impact sound quality far more than any codec used to carry the music over a streaming service or as a download.

Bingo.

 

[vhsownsbeta]

They talk alot about the damage caused by MP3, calling it the main cause of overall music quality downfall, but never seem to touch the topic of declining producing/mastering standards to begin with. Just baffling.

Yeah. That feel when you buy the new Radiohead album in 'high res' FLAC and it has a DR of 5 

 

[landroni]

  It seems to me that the MQA support question is moot: someone could just build an MQA decoder box (assuming the license allows this) that takes S/PDIF, AES or USB in, decodes the MQA, and outputs to S/PDIF or AES. No need to build it into a DAC, and since many DACs can take hi-res PCM already, this should work OK. You could even hack the Meridian Explorer if the DAC is separate from the MQA decoder inside, and transmit the decoded MQA data out in some form.

I may be wrong, but  I seem to remember that MQA comes with integrated draconian DRM features, one of which is that the decoded stream cannot be outputted digitally but only as analogue signal. This is why I think Jason mentioned that Meridian requires access to DAC internals from manufacturers...

 

[johnjen]

 
I may be wrong, but  I seem to remember that MQA comes with integrated draconian DRM features, one of which is that the decoded stream cannot be outputted digitally but only as analogue signal. This is why I think Jason mentioned that Meridian requires access to DAC internals from manufacturers...

What that ("the decoded stream cannot be outputted digitally") sez to me is MQA is a still born platform.
At least as far as the 'industry' is concerned, aka another flash in the pan…
 
Sorta like,
Siss, Boom, Bah,
splat…

 
At least if this requirement is true and is maintained.
 
JJ