Schiit Happened: The Story of the World's Most Improbable Start-Up
Oct 8, 2020 at 12:34 AM Post #65,506 of 154,125
Oct 8, 2020 at 1:03 AM Post #65,507 of 154,125
I understand Darko's "Holy Trinity" thinking, but I haven't found a need yet for Chromecast based on my listening habits. Still, his video review of the Powernode 2i was a big influence on me buying the Node 2i.

Chromecast, as well as much richer/better support for Google Assistant commands -- Bluesound is way weaker than many of its competitors in that regard (maybe because they sold part of their souls to Jeff Bezos?) -- could sway me to purchase one or two of their streamers. I like their purpose-built approach to their products. Just too many unfortunate compromises with their current line. But I keep an eye on them.
 
Oct 8, 2020 at 5:00 AM Post #65,508 of 154,125
It works fine. There is no difference in the protocol, just the physical connection.
There is no difference in protocol, but there is difference in impedance and other matters:
- IEC 60958 – Type I - AES/EBU is 110 ohm balanced
- IEC 60958 – Type II - Coax is 75 ohm unbalanced
So I guess you would have a slight mismatch in impedance connecting one to the other.
 
Oct 8, 2020 at 9:02 AM Post #65,509 of 154,125
Only if they’re smart...

I think even a brick is smarter than what we're dealing with in US government (irrespective of party affiliation).

Note: this is not a political statement, it's a statement on politics. :laughing::laughing:
 
Oct 8, 2020 at 9:39 AM Post #65,510 of 154,125
I think even a brick is smarter than what we're dealing with in US government (irrespective of party affiliation).

It's not the US gov. It's any gov be it democratic, socialist, communist, fascist, dictatorship, kingdom, etc. Those at the top like to stay there and ensure their own well being. The rest of us are mere serfs with very little (if any) voice. We're just not smart enough to see it so we bicker among ourselves over dumb schiit. Divide and conquer.
 
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Oct 8, 2020 at 10:49 AM Post #65,511 of 154,125
For the record, Jonesy sported a set of Sony MDR-7506 cans
Jonesy was a special case. He listened to Italian opera while not hunting for Russian subs :)
 
Oct 8, 2020 at 11:11 AM Post #65,513 of 154,125
There was a comment earlier about measuring output in horsepower...
Back when I ran a car audio shop I thought it would be cool to advertise amplifier power in Hp (since car audio folks are obsessed with power ratings) until I realized that 1000 watts sounds a lot more impressive than 1.35 Hp. :)
 
Oct 8, 2020 at 11:23 AM Post #65,514 of 154,125
There was a comment earlier about measuring output in horsepower...

I'm just waiting on announcement of the 500 horsepower Mjolnir 3. Should be pretty simple -- you'd only need 4 of these wired in parallel, and that should drive even high impedance headphones without clipping. :laughing:

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Oct 8, 2020 at 11:29 AM Post #65,515 of 154,125
Back when I ran a car audio shop I thought it would be cool to advertise amplifier power in Hp (since car audio folks are obsessed with power ratings) until I realized that 1000 watts sounds a lot more impressive than 1.35 Hp. :)
LOL!
 
Oct 8, 2020 at 11:34 AM Post #65,516 of 154,125
It works fine. There is no difference in the protocol, just the physical connection.
Check out the AES3 vs S/PDIF comparison table in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF. TL; DR It works. AES3 uses higher voltages, but it's all digital so what matters is the signal encoding, which is the same. I've used Pi2AES with AES balanced and BNC with a variety of DACs, never any problem. If you are still worried, I can try to dig out a BNC S/PDIF cable to connect my Pi2AES to my Yggdrasil to test; they are connected with AES XLR currently but I may have the BNC-terminated coax in my digital cable storage box.
There is no difference in protocol, but there is difference in impedance and other matters:
- IEC 60958 – Type I - AES/EBU is 110 ohm balanced
- IEC 60958 – Type II - Coax is 75 ohm unbalanced
So I guess you would have a slight mismatch in impedance connecting one to the other.


Thanks for the response. I'm not fussed about the details much; just that it will actually work. This will be for convenience only, so a bit of compromise is more than fine.
 
Oct 8, 2020 at 12:16 PM Post #65,517 of 154,125
Thanks for the response. I'm not fussed about the details much; just that it will actually work. This will be for convenience only, so a bit of compromise is more than fine.

from PI Design's web site, it looks like the PI2AES has the correct impedances for the respective XLR balanced and BNC coaxial connectors.

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for the cable, it should have the same type of connector on both ends-- no impedance mismatch. If you use the XLR, get a digital AES/EBU cable with 110 ohm impedance, not XLR "microphone cable" which is designed for analog signals. For BNC coaxial, get one with 75 ohms (e.g. RG-59), not a 50 ohm RF BNC cable.

Trust the Yggy owners who have posted.
 
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Oct 8, 2020 at 12:20 PM Post #65,518 of 154,125
So I guess you would have a slight mismatch in impedance connecting one to the other.
From the Pi2AES webpage:

AES BNC OUTPUT - A 75 ohm BNC connector with Isolation Transformer provides for Single Ended AES transmission.​
 
Oct 8, 2020 at 1:44 PM Post #65,519 of 154,125
There is no difference in protocol, but there is difference in impedance and other matters:
- IEC 60958 – Type I - AES/EBU is 110 ohm balanced
- IEC 60958 – Type II - Coax is 75 ohm unbalanced
So I guess you would have a slight mismatch in impedance connecting one to the other.
The original question was about connecting between Yggdrasil and Pi2AES through their BNC connectors (unbalanced coax cable). There is no impedance mismatch and it will work fine.
 

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