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My question about Nexus is:
1) besides the single end/balanced conversion thingy, does it affect the sound at all, and in what ways?
2) is the Nexus in Freya S the same Nexus as the one in Ragnarok 2? Do they use identical Nexus parts?
 
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I was kinda hoping that one of the new pre amps would have a headphone stage / phono stage, then it'd be complete for my setup.

What I'd really love is a Ragnarok 2 with all the same inputs/outputs (plus dac/phono card) just minus the power amp. Otherwise, I'm sure it'd make a fine preamp as is.
 
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I was kinda hoping that one of the new pre amps would have a headphone stage / phono stage, then it'd be complete for my setup.

What I'd really love is a Ragnarok 2 with all the same inputs/outputs (plus dac/phono card) just minus the power amp. Otherwise, I'm sure it'd make a fine preamp as is.
IIRC, the Ragnarok headphone output is connected to same amp output as speaker terminals with no attenuation. In that sense, a Ragnarok as preamp makes sense except for the energy loss from running the amp stage when not using headphones.
 
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What happens if all four preamps end up selling about equally? Do you keep all four or will you have to make tough decisions?
Presumably that depends on absolute volume (high = all survive, low = all die) rather than relative volume.
 
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IIRC, the Ragnarok headphone output is connected to same amp output as speaker terminals with no attenuation. In that sense, a Ragnarok as preamp makes sense except for the energy loss from running the amp stage when not using headphones.
And about the same price as a Freya S and Mjolnir but gets you a better headphone amp.
 
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Oh man.

Although Project Thunderdome does sound like a fun idea, I do feel a little trepidation. I've had/have a long term goal of upgrading my chain from pre to speakers, and a pretty sure thing in that scenario has been a Freya. And Freya+ seems like it pushes all the right buttons. But this pre-amp deathmatch lends an urgency that while exhilarating; it also feels offputting. I guess it is the uncertainty of it all. I'm not worried about warranties, I'm certain Schiit will honor those, rather the "Buy now! It's gone tomorrow!" vibe I'm getting. I'd happily splurge for a Freya+, but if I miss the euro-shipment what then? Freya has been on backorder in the euro shops for a few months, if not longer, so chances are that first shipment gets snatched up fast. If all 4 pre's flounder, will you return to OG Freya and Saga?
In short, I want a tubed Freya, and hope the window for buying one is adequate.

I'm running old school Saga now, and super happy with it, but I've been thinking about monoblock Aegir/Vidar (depending on speaker choice) for a while...
 
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Oh man.

Although Project Thunderdome does sound like a fun idea, I do feel a little trepidation. I've had/have a long term goal of upgrading my chain from pre to speakers, and a pretty sure thing in that scenario has been a Freya. And Freya+ seems like it pushes all the right buttons. But this pre-amp deathmatch lends an urgency that while exhilarating; it also feels offputting. I guess it is the uncertainty of it all. I'm not worried about warranties, I'm certain Schiit will honor those, rather the "Buy now! It's gone tomorrow!" vibe I'm getting. I'd happily splurge for a Freya+, but if I miss the euro-shipment what then? Freya has been on backorder in the euro shops for a few months, if not longer, so chances are that first shipment gets snatched up fast. If all 4 pre's flounder, will you return to OG Freya and Saga?
In short, I want a tubed Freya, and hope the window for buying one is adequate.

I'm running old school Saga now, and super happy with it, but I've been thinking about monoblock Aegir/Vidar (depending on speaker choice) for a while...
I think you're looking at it wrong. It's a win win for you, no rushing to buy. If the freya+ is what you really want but it sells out before you get a chance to purchase, no worries, it sold out, it's a thunderdome victor, so they make more. If it doesn't sell out, its a thunderdome loser, closeout pricing to move em out. You get a better deal on what you really wanted. Either way, everyone wins.

I pulled the trigger on "Saga Classic" bstock for a great deal last week and I'm thrilled for my self even though it's not a thunderdome gladiator. I gambled that a bunch showed up on bstock last week to make room for the rumored thunderdome, and I got a great deal on an amp I wanted for a long time. It was a thunderdome victory before thunderdome even started. Everyone is a winner!
 
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Oh man.

Although Project Thunderdome does sound like a fun idea, I do feel a little trepidation. I've had/have a long term goal of upgrading my chain from pre to speakers, and a pretty sure thing in that scenario has been a Freya. And Freya+ seems like it pushes all the right buttons. But this pre-amp deathmatch lends an urgency that while exhilarating; it also feels offputting. I guess it is the uncertainty of it all. I'm not worried about warranties, I'm certain Schiit will honor those, rather the "Buy now! It's gone tomorrow!" vibe I'm getting. I'd happily splurge for a Freya+, but if I miss the euro-shipment what then? Freya has been on backorder in the euro shops for a few months, if not longer, so chances are that first shipment gets snatched up fast. If all 4 pre's flounder, will you return to OG Freya and Saga?
In short, I want a tubed Freya, and hope the window for buying one is adequate.

I'm running old school Saga now, and super happy with it, but I've been thinking about monoblock Aegir/Vidar (depending on speaker choice) for a while...
While being outside the USA complicates things Jason went out of his way to say not to feel pressured. The runs are not small.

Best of luck in what you do, but don't feel pressure that it has to be done soon.
 
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Must be difficult being Schiit now. So many people to please.
 
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Thank you. Always willing to go the extra yard...
English a second language to most of us.
We speak American, which many a Brit will tell you has little to do with English. :astonished:
Ah. America and England. Two countries separated by a common language.:ksc75smile:

To be honest, we do it simply to annoy the Brits.


As far as thunderdome, I know only purchases count as votes, but as a recent purchaser of a Saga with tubes and LISST, I would have fallen squarely in the Saga+/Saga-S camp, but since my audiophilia nervosa is in remission so I see no need to upgrade.
 
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Freya + is by far the most interesting one to me, they implemented two out of four features from my wishlist. The addition of a motorized pot for all versions is fantastic too. Nice job!
i own the 1st-gen Freya, looking to upgrade to the Freya + for sure.

Lower noise floor + tube shutdown when running other modes alone sealed the deal for me, tho the other upgrades are nice too.
 
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Please release a phono preamp that is a substantial upgrade over the Mani. Perhaps a phono stage in the Saga or preferably Freya size box. As much as I love my Mani I want to use it for a second system and get a more substantial phono stage for my main system as a companion for Yggy. I am considering Sutherland KC Vibe or Insight, Musical Surroundings and a few others. However I would pick Schiit first if there were substantial model. I sure hope it is one of those new things that come out before SOL.
I like your thinking. I think it would be fantastic if they made a tube phono-preamp (something along the lines of a Manley Chinook). Right around the 300-400 dollar range. I'd be all over that...
 

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