[ScubaMan2017]

I barely listen to headphones at home and I STILL want Schiit.

Holy crap. Is that you @Mad Lust Envy ? Your replies to my noob questions helped me out. Happy New Year, eh.

 

[HumanFly]

I'd give up 5 of the upcoming 11 new items for an improvement in customer service, the promise of "it'll get better" doesn't fly for me since I'm sitting on 2 useless items. I hate wasting money.

Did you try info@schiit.com ?

 

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goodbye old year,

Happy new year.......

 

[Old Nuke]

Yep, went thru the routine, sent my item back (Loki) and was told it worked correctly, but it doesn't (compared to the other 2 I have). Had a second item (Vali 2) develop noise, didn't even make it thru the emails before I gave up on them. They (he) didn't read my emails, seemed to be going thru a standard routine, wasting my time.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Holy crap. Is that you @Mad Lust Envy ? Your replies to my noob questions helped me out. Happy New Year, eh.

I'm still around, barely.

Happy new year, all.

 

[JohnnyCanuck]

JC

 

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Shroedinger owns a YGGY.......

 

[EricDH]

Unless/until Jason and Mike are seriously intent on pushing the technological envelope by doing something truly new, unique, meritorious with Class-D, I hope they steer clear of it.

If Bruno Putzeys (who has been one of the main promotors of Class D, designer of the Hypex units and now introducing Class D in the real high end with Mola Mola) is able to push the Class D envelope, why wouldn't Jason? Question of course is if he is interested. Anyway, the idea that Class D always sounds like ass is something from the past I believe.

And not all strongly held (and advocated) beliefs from Schiit are always the true and only gospel. I know that Jason is always strongly promoting linear power supplies, and thus is against switching power supplies. Although I have no way to go into any technical discussion about power supplies and their pros and cons (I just don't understand electronics), I can say that I have owned a Chord Electronics power amp for many years. These have switch mode power supplies, and sound damn good. Happy with my versatile Devialet amp now, but I would buy a Chord amp again blindly if it would fit the way I build my 2 channel set.

 

[HumanFly]

Yep, went thru the routine, sent my item back (Loki) and was told it worked correctly, but it doesn't (compared to the other 2 I have). Had a second item (Vali 2) develop noise, didn't even make it thru the emails before I gave up on them. They (he) didn't read my emails, seemed to be going thru a standard routine, wasting my time.

I would give it another try if I were you. I mean, I`m in Europe so I have no experience with the service over there, but from what I`ve seen and read on here, your experience is not the standard one.

 

[Pietro Cozzi Tinin]

I would give it another try if I were you. I mean, I`m in Europe so I have no experience with the service over there, but from what I`ve seen and read on here, your experience is not the standard one.

Indeed the service here in The Netherlands (schiit-europe) is very good.
In this case I would choose to go up a level in the Schiit organisation to discuss matters.
Dragging the company trough schiit on a public website is just NOT the way to go.

 

[artur9]

Anyway, the idea that Class D always sounds like ass is something from the past I believe.

I have 2 concerns with Class D amps. First is, all the high frequency noises it dumps back into the mains. It requires ridiculous levels of filtering to get rid of it and I worry that other equipment just can't handle it. Have you seen on Stereophile the output both with and without the high end lab analyzer's filtering? Before filtering a sine wave looks like it was made from fuzzy caterpillars. After, it looks perfect of course. But I don't want to have to hook up a many thousands of dollars analyzer to an amp to get the signal I expect.

The other concern I got after reading some explanation somewhere, can't remember where, about Class D's interaction with the input signal. Something about its output being frequency dependent. Ick.

 

[Ableza]

I have built dozens of Class D amps using Hypex modules. They sound pretty good. I prefer to use them for subwoofer amps, mainly for their high efficiency, and because my ear says they still sound best when band-width limited below 200Hz. Class D is much better than it used to be... but A/B still sounds better.

 

[Robert Padgett]

I have 2 concerns with Class D amps. First is, all the high frequency noises it dumps back into the mains. It requires ridiculous levels of filtering to get rid of it and I worry that other equipment just can't handle it. Have you seen on Stereophile the output both with and without the high end lab analyzer's filtering? Before filtering a sine wave looks like it was made from fuzzy caterpillars. After, it looks perfect of course. But I don't want to have to hook up a many thousands of dollars analyzer to an amp to get the signal I expect.

The other concern I got after reading some explanation somewhere, can't remember where, about Class D's interaction with the input signal. Something about its output being frequency dependent. Ick.

Two words, Sprout 100. Class D done right and sold at a reasonable price, backed by PSAudio. If Jason and Mike don't like Class-D, Okay, but Scott McGowan has made it work. (It is always better with a sub-woofer)

 

[US Blues]

Two words, Sprout 100. Class D done right and sold at a reasonable price, backed by PSAudio. If Jason and Mike don't like Class-D, Okay, but Scott McGowan has made it work. (It is always better with a sub-woofer)

Sprout is an appropriate use case for Class D, especially after they lowered the price.