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2 watts into 94 db/mW will yield 127 dB
SPL is 20log10(p/pref) dB.
20log10(2048/1) = +66 DB.
94 +66 = 160 dB, so we were both wrong.
SPL is 20log10(p/pref) dB.
20log10(2048/1) = +66 DB.
94 +66 = 160 dB, so we were both wrong.
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I get 127 dB as well. Power is 10 times the log of the gain, not 20 (that's voltage).
(10 log 2000) + 94 = 133 dB.
That's gonna hurt a lotDoes that mean that 1 W is enough?
I get 127 dB as well. Power is 10 times the log of the gain, not 20 (that's voltage).
(10 log 2000) + 94 = 133 dB.
I get 127 dB as well. Power is 10 times the log of the gain, not 20 (that's voltage).
(10 log 2000) + 94 = 133 dB.
That's gonna hurt a lotDoes that mean that 1 W is enough?
Nah. You don't want to compress the peaks -- go for the 2 W. Just don't turn the volume control to 11.
I get 127 dB as well. Power is 10 times the log of the gain, not 20 (that's voltage).
(10 log 2000) + 94 = 133 dB.
That's gonna hurt a lotDoes that mean that 1 W is enough?
Nah. You don't want to compress the peaks -- go for the 2 W. Just don't turn the volume control to 11.
So who's got an audio chain with an SNR that's that good? Who's got a compressor or limiter in their chain? I've got a toenail clipper handy.
10*log(2000) = 33 if my mind don't fail me.
(33+94) dB = 127dB
If we were talking these numbers for speakers we would be dubbed insanse, lol. For a 90 dB/W speaker we would be talking 8500 watts to reach 127 dB.
So who's got an audio chain with an SNR that's that good? Who's got a compressor or limiter in their chain? I've got a toenail clipper handy.
It's all about headroom
Really, the 1-2W thing is just a guide line, as with most specs that manufacturers give us, we don't know what the distortion is at the specified output level, nor how it behaves relative to output level.
So who's got an audio chain with an SNR that's that good? Who's got a compressor or limiter in their chain? I've got a toenail clipper handy.
It's all about headroom
Really, the 1-2W thing is just a guide line, as with most specs that manufacturers give us, we don't know what the distortion is at the specified output level, nor how it behaves relative to output level.
Let's see, I plug my HE-500's into my Asgard 2 (1 W), I turn it up real loud and I don't hear clipping on the peaks. I can turn it up much louder ans still not hear any clipping but I don't want to get hearing loss or feel uncomfortable. 1 Watt is plenty. How many audio chains have an SNR of 120 dB, how many recordings have such a SNR or usable dynamic range? Most of the crap we listen to is compressed and limited. If I'm listening to classical music must I turn it up so loud as to hear some guy in back of the orchestra cut a fart while the orchestra is playing? IMO, this is where everyone starts dreaming of things that have little practical value.
Distortion rises with output generally speaking.. So it might not be clipping but the distortion figures would probably increase. Whether that is something the human ear can perceive... I don't really know.
My hybrid X-CAN V3 output is rated 1W (not sure @ which impedance). With my HD600 (300 Ohm) I'm only using 1/8 of a volume pot (-54 dB)... otherwise my cans turn into a pair of small loudspeakers.
I can also see hip types wearing a 5-panel