[kyuuketsuki]

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I just did a quick comparison of my gnex with poweramp vs my ipod 3rd gen;
 
I feel as if the nexus is a bit darker and more laid back sounding then my ipod, imo the ipod had brighter mids and highs and it took a bit of EQ'ing on my nexus to get that brightness back in my FX700's (esp since the jvc's mids are not as forward to begin with)
 
anyone else have both they can compare to? I'm almost enjoying my ipod for listening to music more enjoyable than the nexus... as i'm not a huge fan of EQ'ing

I've compared it to J3 and Clip+ both sound better than the GNex, but GNex does not sound bad at all though my TMA-1s or my HJE900s. The GNex is an admirable performer, and will likely improve when Voodoo comes out for it. I look forward to the possibilities. As for specifics, I didn't do critical listening, but the GNex is certainly good enough to listen to in a pinch, just won't be replacing my main players. 

 

[DanBa]

 
Efforts are ongoing to enable the USB audio feature in a modded Android/Linux kernel.
 
But if you want the USB audio enabled via official firmware/kernel, please vote (i.e. request to Google) here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
 

 

[Coupe]

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Efforts are ongoing to enable the USB audio feature in a modded Android/Linux kernel.
 
But if you want the USB audio enabled via official firmware/kernel, please vote (i.e. request to Google) here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
 

Voted.
 

 

[sanity8me]

 
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Efforts are ongoing to enable the USB audio feature in a modded Android/Linux kernel.
 
But if you want the USB audio enabled via official firmware/kernel, please vote (i.e. request to Google) here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
 

Voted as well.  I mean I seriously don't understand how this isn't more of a big deal here.
 
Can't imagine any current portable DAP be even be on the same ball park as an Android phone connected to a DAC like my DACport.  It saddens me to say this, but my beloved HM-602 will become irrelevant to me quite quickly once this happens...if this happens.
 
Or will Apple beat Google to it?

 

[Nintendam]

Voted;
 
somewhat off topic, anyone have problems using this forum on their gnex? I can browse fine, but when I try and post it hangs at 'submitting content'

 

[Paco62]

Voted and subscribed.  I find it amazing that Google doesn't seem to think this is much of an issue, but it's a key difference between Android and Apple.  This functionality, through the Iphone's port, is why they have all sorts of gadgets and docking stations.  We will never experience anything like that until this functionality exists.

 

[mark2410]

pfffft, android wont ever get it.  not untill google specifies it must have something like a PDMI connector, and that ALL must have it.  micro usb is fine for changing but not suitable for everything.  i may not love apple but they nailed the connector and whats more they made it ubiquitous.  untill android does the same it will never be as usefull and its a great giant bloody pain.
 
honestly google is worse than apple, google doesnt give a crap about things they dont see as issues.  for example bluetooth support on phones was better 10 years ago than it is today

 

[DanBa]

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Can't imagine any current portable DAP be even be on the same ball park as an Android phone connected to a DAC like my DACport.  It saddens me to say this, but my beloved HM-602 will become irrelevant to me quite quickly once this happens...if this happens.

 
IMHO it will happen, because the kernel of Android is the Linux kernel.
And the Linux kernel acts as an abstraction layer between the hardware and the rest of the software stack. Thus Android handles all the things that Linux is really good at such as a vast array of device drivers, which take the pain out of interfacing to peripheral hardware.
 
And the development of Linux is one of the most prominent examples of free and open source software collaboration: the underlying source code may be used, modified, and distributed commercially or non-commercially by anyone under licenses such as the GNU General Public License.
 
 
USB audio enabled by free and open source Linux developers – Examples:
 
. Nook tablet can interoperate with USB DAC FiiO E7,  USB DAC Beresford TC-7520SE Caiman or USB headset Logitech DAC A-5572A:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459892
 
. HP TouchPad can interoperate with USB sound card Audio Advantage Micro II:
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-internals/301721-pulseaudio-settings-2.html#post3235014
 
. Logitech Squeezebox Touch can interoperate with a lot of USB DAC:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82110
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net.au/index.php/news-blog-and-showcase/john-darkos-blog/item/150-how-to-enable-usb-audio-output-on-the-squeezebox-touch
 
By the way, tweaking audiophile Android phones should not be carried out by Google, but likely by some free and open source Linux developers like John Swenson:
"An interesting example is the HRT music streamer II, it IS asynchronous USB, but it is still very sensitive to what happens in the computer. On the SAME COMPUTER I can make simple changes to OS scheduling parameters and get a huge difference in the sound. At one end of the scale it’s dull, lifeless, no depth at all, at the other end of the scale it is wonderfully alive, dynamic, huge depth etc. And all this by just changing a few numbers, NO change in hardware at all." 
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.pl?forum=pcaudio&n=101397
 
 
Free and open source software developers play an important role in the Android ecosystem:
1. The USB Host feature was not enabled in the first release (4.0.1) of the stock kernel of the Galaxy Nexus.
2. The kernel 4.0.1 was modded by a non-Google developer with USB Host feature enabled allowing USB mass storage devices and Galaxy Nexus to interoperate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359579
3. USB Host feature requested to Google
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=738
4. The USB Host feature was officially enabled in the Android release 4.0.2!

 

 

[elfary]

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pfffft, android wont ever get it.  not untill google specifies it must have something like a PDMI connector, and that ALL must have it.  micro usb is fine for changing but not suitable for everything.  i may not love apple but they nailed the connector and whats more they made it ubiquitous.  untill android does the same it will never be as usefull and its a great giant bloody pain.
 
honestly google is worse than apple, google doesnt give a crap about things they dont see as issues.  for example bluetooth support on phones was better 10 years ago than it is today

Amen to that.
 
The facts that Android phones do not have a proper line out and that Android stock players lack gapless attest that music is an afterthought in the Android think tank. They just do not have music ingrained in their DNA as Apple does. I can't imagine myself to the CEO of Samsung listening to Bob Dylan in his Android handset but i can imagine the late Steve Jobs or Joni Ive doing so.
 
And it's such a pity. I've been devoted for months to find an smartphone with a huge screen to replace my iPhone but in the end i still stick to my iPhone because for music purposes is way ahead the competition. Mainly because of having a very well designed line out that allow for very good sounding speaker docks and the chance of amping the analog line out signal with high end portable amplifier (Instead of the lousy double amping that Android phones force to).
 
Not to mention that iPhones' headphone out is a state of the art engineering achievement.
 

 

[DanBa]

Open interface or proprietary interface, which way to go?
 
For the time being, the iPod/iPhone USB digital audio interface is proprietary, i.e. it requires an Apple authentication coprocessor on the USB DAC side.
http://www.xmos.com/products/development-kits/ipod-dock
 

 
 
 
 

 

[evolutionx]

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Is it possible thru iSyncr to sync back to iTunes the files statistics ?
 
I usually set the playlists to skip recently listened albums.

You can try Rocket Player app (from iSyncr site) which lets you syn back the playlists from Nexus.  Cheers.

 

[DanBa]

 
[size=12.0pt]My theory on the missing “usbaudio.c“ is wrong.[/size]

[size=12.0pt]I download the latest ALSA (1.0.25) which should be USB audio class 2 compliant: there is no “usbaudio.c“ (generic USB Audio Driver for ALSA), but only “card.c“ (another generic USB Audio Driver for ALSA).[/size]
[size=12.0pt]http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page[/size]

[size=12.0pt]The (Nook) Android 2.3 includes “usbaudio.c“, the USB Audio Driver for ALSA which is compliant with USB audio class 1 devices allowing for 24 bits / 96 kHz max.[/size]
[size=12.0pt]https://github.com/dalingrin/nook_kernel/blob/encore-32/sound/usb/usbaudio.c[/size]

[size=12.0pt]And the latest Android 4.0 includes “card.c“, the USB Audio Driver for ALSA which should be compliant with USB audio class 2 devices allowing for 24 bits / 192 kHz.[/size]
[size=12.0pt]https://bitbucket.org/paulobrien/android_kernel_galaxynexus/src/bc4f9b72a51d/sound/usb/card.c[/size]
 
[size=12.0pt]New theory: some missing or wrong Android 4.0 kernel parameter settings[/size]

 

[DanBa]

 
Interworking between Archos G9 tablet and FiiO E17:
http://www.jbmm.fr/2012/01/utiliser-le-dac-fiio-e17-avec-son-archos/
 
 

 
 
USB accessory and host modes are directly supported in Android 3.1 or newer platforms. 
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/index.html
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/usb/UsbConstants.html
 
 
The Archos G9 tablet is powered by Android 3.2 Honeycomb.
http://www.archos.com/products/gen9/archos_101g9/index.html?country=us&lang=en
http://update.archos.com/9/gen9/changes_firmware_archos_android_gen9.htm
 
Version 3.2.22 - September 2nd, 2011
Initial Honeycomb 3.2 firmware release
 
Version 3.2.77 - December 6th, 2011
Accessories: external USB audio cards (DAC) support has been added
 
Version 3.2.78 - December 19th, 2011
Audio accessory: fix USB DAC not supporting 44.1kHz

 

[darthcodeman]

Would the Galaxy Nexus have enough output power to run a battery-less DAC like the DACport LX?

 

[DanBa]

 
If it is possible, your Galaxy Nexus will lose battery quickly.
 
It seems better to use an external battery.
 
 

 
 
"On a technical note, I’ve purchased this power adapter from Eneloop, which is a Sanyo company. This little white box is basically a Li-ion battery with a USB output. It’s a great complement to our DACport, and allows to play music from iPad through DACport on the go, powering both in the process. What a great idea for only $50."
http://centrance.com/blog/page/2/