Rockna Wavedream DAC
May 6, 2023 at 5:27 AM Post #212 of 345
can u guys share your WD settings?

in particular..
dither on/off
clock stream/local

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have been comparing i2s and aes/ebu. using pink faun i2s and bibacord mk2 aes/ebu cables.

aes - bass digs lower. slight more punch and definition. where the aes really shines is perception of 3d space.. really separates out elements and throws stuff much farther out in front. top end is slightly rounded and less sharpness and "zing" to edges. overall a more pleasant listen with less hot highs.

i2s - sharper and more immediate sounding. occasionally a bit hot on the treble. very clear, airy, more upfront everything. staging seems flatter and definitely not as strong in front/back depth. low end is tight but slightly less punch and reverb, slight less sensation of sub-bass.
 
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May 6, 2023 at 2:44 PM Post #213 of 345
can u guys share your WD settings?

in particular..
dither on/off
clock stream/local

*edit

have been comparing i2s and aes/ebu. using pink faun i2s and bibacord mk2 aes/ebu cables.

aes - bass digs lower. slight more punch and definition. where the aes really shines is perception of 3d space.. really separates out elements and throws stuff much farther out in front. top end is slightly rounded and less sharpness and "zing" to edges. overall a more pleasant listen with less hot highs.

i2s - sharper and more immediate sounding. occasionally a bit hot on the treble. very clear, airy, more upfront everything. staging seems flatter and definitely not as strong in front/back depth. low end is tight but slightly less punch and reverb, slight less sensation is sub-bass.
at the moment I'm using USB as input.
filter off
dither on
clock local
 
May 10, 2023 at 1:05 PM Post #214 of 345
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Ugly as fcuk, but might as well check it out while I'm there
 
May 10, 2023 at 2:05 PM Post #215 of 345
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Ugly as fcuk, but might as well check it out while I'm there
Agreed on the color. But it would be very interesting to hear how Rockna has optimized and refined the Wavedream. When I was doing my DAC evaluation last year, my final two choices where the Wavedream and the Weiss. To be honest I could have very easily gone with the Rockna and been very very happy. It's a outstanding DAC.

Please share your thoughts if you're able to have a listen.
 
May 10, 2023 at 4:43 PM Post #216 of 345
Its certainly very....red? Might work well with DartZeel's gear, at least aesthetically. I wonder if there are any sonic changes or is it all the colour and top plate change vs the regular Wavedream Signature.

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May 10, 2023 at 5:31 PM Post #217 of 345
Its certainly very....red? Might work well with DartZeel's gear, at least aesthetically. I wonder if there are any sonic changes or is it all the colour and top plate change vs the regular Wavedream Signature.

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Probably I’m the only who loves the color. It looks fantastic to me.
 
May 10, 2023 at 6:44 PM Post #219 of 345
A salesman in Munich should be dressed like this 🤣


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Nicolae himself should wear it.
He will be there with new products like this Anniversary Edition and the Wavelight Server
 
May 10, 2023 at 7:02 PM Post #220 of 345
Nicolae himself should wear it.
He will be there with new products like this Anniversary Edition and the Wavelight Server

Lol wavelight server... where have I heard that before..
 
May 11, 2023 at 1:38 AM Post #221 of 345
All,

I just contacted Rockna about how to adjust volume control of Wavedream for matching output voltage ( Vrms ) like 2V ( RCA ) and 4V ( XLR ) . Andrei from Rockna answered me as below

" You have to only lower the volume by three 0.5dB steps for the desired max voltage
level.

These are my calculations:
Edition: Vmax RMS SE = 2.33v, Vmax RMS XLR = 4.66v
dB=20*log10(2/2.33) = -1.32dB => -1.5 dB(3 steps)
dB=20*log10(4/4.66) = -1.32dB => -1.5 dB(3 steps)

Signature: Vmax RMS SE = 3.53v, Vmax RMS XLR = 7.07
dB=20*log10(2/3.53) = -4.93dB => -5.0 dB(10 steps)
dB=20*log10(4/7.07) = -4.94dB => -5.0 dB(10 steps) "
 
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May 11, 2023 at 3:38 AM Post #222 of 345
All,

I just contacted Rockna about how to adjust volume control of Wavedream for matching output voltage ( Vrms ) like 2V ( RCA ) and 4V ( XLR ) . Andrei from Rockna answered me as below

" You have to only lower the volume by three 0.5dB steps for the desired max voltage
level.

These are my calculations:
Edition: Vmax RMS SE = 2.33v, Vmax RMS XLR = 4.66v
dB=20*log10(2/2.33) = -1.32dB => -1.5 dB(3 steps)
dB=20*log10(4/4.66) = -1.32dB => -1.5 dB(3 steps)

Signature: Vmax RMS SE = 3.53v, Vmax RMS XLR = 7.07
dB=20*log10(2/3.53) = -4.93dB => -5.0 dB(10 steps)
dB=20*log10(4/7.07) = -4.94dB => -5.0 dB(10 steps) "

Thanks for finding out.
Just so I'm clear.. if I want 4v at xlr out for signature, I just set it at -5dB?
 
May 11, 2023 at 5:47 AM Post #223 of 345
Thanks for finding out.
Just so I'm clear.. if I want 4v at xlr out for signature, I just set it at -5dB?
You can use a Vpp/Vrms/dbu calculator to gauge how much attenuation is required to achieve a certain voltage.
https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/interactive-design-tools/dbconvert.html

e.g. My WD outputs 10 vpp via RCA which roughly translates to 3.5 vrms or 13 dbu. This is roughly 5db louder than the standard 2 Vrms/8dbu which most amps are designed for thus a 5db attenuation for most of my application.
 
May 14, 2023 at 10:12 PM Post #224 of 345
just ordered a tubulus concentus i2s cable.

wanted to give another i2s cable a go, since rockna themselves say i2s is the best connection between the WDs. the pink faun i2s is clearly bested by the bibacord aes cable.
 
May 21, 2023 at 4:01 PM Post #225 of 345
Well, in addition to the Wavedream Signature Anniversary in red, it appears there was a Silver Wavedream Ultra on display again this year in Munich, similar to last years Munich show. I've only found one photo featuring it, and it has its lid off. Also looks like it might have some sort of streaming function built in going by what is on the display. I wonder if it might be coming out this year at some point?

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