RockBox For HiFiman HM601 and for HM801
Mar 7, 2012 at 5:19 AM Post #271 of 364
I don't know if there are such posts on head-fi. In Russia we have at least two specialists, who make such modifications. One of them currently does it for money. HM-601 rarely break after they've solved the button problem. I voided my warranty support when I first tried Rockbox (the first version) on HM-601. :)
 
I still doubt that all in one chips can sound better than modified HM-601.
 


 


My friend until you've heard the V for yourself :)

The mods sound interesting. If you could post indeph directions on how to impliment the mod then I may consider undertaking such a feat.

Let's just put it this way, while I consider my ibasso DX100 superior to the Studio V, from a musical enjoyment factor I still don't consider the ibasso a night and day difference from the V. You factor in the portability, long battery life, and ease of use with tactile buttons, I consider the Studio the better portable option. Although the V does have its weak points, hiss being the big one.
 
Mar 7, 2012 at 5:43 AM Post #272 of 364
I don't think, I have to try it. :) We have a thread on player.ru forum named "HiFiMAN HM-602 vs HiSoundAudio Studio". Reading it was enough for me. I bought HM-601 once because I wanted a DAP without sound tweaks. And I definitely don't want any tweaks now. In my opinion tweaks make different music sound in similar manner. I don't need this at all. :)
 
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My friend until you've heard the V for yourself
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The mods sound interesting. If you could post indeph directions on how to impliment the mod then I may consider undertaking such a feat.
Let's just put it this way, while I consider my ibasso DX100 superior to the Studio V, from a musical enjoyment factor I still don't consider the ibasso a night and day difference from the V. You factor in the portability, long battery life, and ease of use with tactile buttons, I consider the Studio the better portable option. Although the V does have its weak points, hiss being the big one.



 
 
Mar 7, 2012 at 6:12 AM Post #273 of 364
I don't think, I have to try it. :) We have a thread on player.ru forum named "HiFiMAN HM-602 vs HiSoundAudio Studio". Reading it was enough for me. I bought HM-601 once because I wanted a DAP without sound tweaks. And I definitely don't want any tweaks now. In my opinion tweaks make different music sound in similar manner. I don't need this at all. :)
 
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Not sure if you are aware but the Hifiman series of players are all very much colored and no where near neutral sounding. So in essence they are tweaked themselves. Also modding them would be tweaking them. Just keep in mind I made a comparison between the Studio V and the DX100 ($800+ dollar player) which crushes even the Hifiman 801. YMWV.
 
Mar 7, 2012 at 6:35 AM Post #274 of 364
In my opinion HM-801 with Game amp is a very neutral DAP and it is definitely more neutral than C4 PRO. I seriously doubt that DX100 crashes HM-801. :wink: But I will find out myself in a few weeks. In Russia many owners compared HM-801 with C4 PRO (even with modified ones) and ranked HM-801 higher. I compared HM-801 (with Game amp) with a DAP that I rank higher than C4 PRO. It is called Alexmod and uses a delta sigma DAC, and I can't say that HM-801 is less neutral but both of them are considered the most neutral DAPs among the top ones.
 
I personally think that modified HM-601 is less colored than the stock one. But for example even stock 602 still reflects the peculiarities of different tracks better than devices with sound tweaks.
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Not sure if you are aware but the Hifiman series of players are all very much colored and no where near neutral sounding. So in essence they are tweaked themselves. Also modding them would be tweaking them. Just keep in mind I made a comparison between the Studio V and the DX100 ($800+ dollar player) which crushes even the Hifiman 801. YMWV.



 
 
Mar 7, 2012 at 7:02 AM Post #275 of 364


In my opinion HM-801 with Game amp is a very neutral DAP and it is definitely more neutral than C4 PRO. I seriously doubt that DX100 crashes HM-801. :wink: But I will find out myself in a few weeks. In Russia many owners compared HM-801 with C4 PRO (even with modified ones) and ranked HM-801 higher. I compared HM-801 (with Game amp) with a DAP that I rank higher than C4 PRO. It is called Alexmod and uses a delta sigma DAC, and I can't say that HM-801 is less neutral but both of them are considered the most neutral DAPs among the top ones.
 
I personally think that modified HM-601 is less colored than the stock one. But for example even stock 602 still reflects the peculiarities of different tracks better than devices with sound tweaks.


 



 
 


So you'll have an opportunity to listen to a DX100 yourself in a few weeks? Curious to hear your thoughts when you can compare the 2. So far everyone whose made a comparison between the two have found the DX100 superior.

Comparing my Studio V to the 601. The Studio Vs sound stage is much larger, treble is well extended and crystal clear. The mid range and bass are quite neutral. I'd have to say the Studio makes my 601 sound muddy and cluttered in comparison.
 
Mar 7, 2012 at 7:23 AM Post #276 of 364
Yes, I bought DX100, so I'll be able to compare it with HM-801.
 
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So you'll have an opportunity to listen to a DX100 yourself in a few weeks? Curious to hear your thoughts when you can compare the 2. So far everyone whose made a comparison between the two have found the DX100 superior.
Comparing my Studio V to the 601. The Studio Vs sound stage is much larger, treble is well extended and crystal clear. The mid range and bass are quite neutral. I'd have to say the Studio makes my 601 sound muddy and cluttered in comparison.



 
 
Mar 7, 2012 at 9:31 AM Post #277 of 364
lee730, as I've said before, I would compare Studio V with a modified HM-601, but I can agree that it can be better than the stock one. Don't know it for sure though. And of course every thing I've said reflects only my opinion. :)
 
Mar 7, 2012 at 11:36 AM Post #278 of 364


So I'm on firmware 0.08 and I'm using a Mac. Does any kind soul want to walk me through this process so I can avoid bricking a device I couldn't afford in the first place?



 
 
These are great instructions: http://www.head-fi.org/t/579759/how-to-installing-and-uninstalling-rockbox-to-the-hifiman-hm-801-603-602-and-601 And while my 601 never completely ignored a file, it didn't see some under "artists" if they were .ogg, but I could get to them by going to SD and browsing that way. Rockbox hasn't had any issues, except for one file that turned out to be corrupt, I just didn't realize it. Once I used my dbPowerAmp converter to unpack the .flac to wav, and then re-compress it, BOOM, worked perfectly.
 
Mar 7, 2012 at 12:43 PM Post #279 of 364


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lee730, as I've said before, I would compare Studio V with a modified HM-601, but I can agree that it can be better than the stock one. Don't know it for sure though. An of course every thing I've said reflects only my opinion. :)



Well one day I'd love for you to be able to hear one for yourself and then you'd truly know :)
 
Mar 11, 2012 at 5:05 PM Post #281 of 364
I'm getting random freezes with Rockbox on my 801 using a Lexar 128GB and Apple Lossless. Not sure what the problem is, the card seems ok if I play from my computer. Thoughts anyone?
 
 
 
Mar 11, 2012 at 6:33 PM Post #282 of 364
I'm getting random freezes with Rockbox on my 801 using a Lexar 128GB and Apple Lossless. Not sure what the problem is, the card seems ok if I play from my computer. Thoughts anyone?

Try if this also happens with flac files. Flac plays fine on my RockBox'ed 801.

 
Mar 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM Post #284 of 364
Can any of you recommend some software that will let me retag my music before putting it on my HM-601? Some tracks appear with no artist name, or their arranged by album name, or the track listing is all wrong, etc.
 
I'm on a mac BTW.
 
Cheers!
 
Mar 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM Post #285 of 364

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