RME ADI-2 DAC Thread

Oct 12, 2021 at 3:15 PM Post #4,546 of 6,226
Does somebody uses Roon + HQPlayer with the ADI-2?
I am fine using PCM upsampling with sinc-M/sinc-L + LNS15 without a problem, but as soon i output DSD256 with poly-sinc-ext2 + ASDM7EC, i get dropouts every 2 seconds.
This doesn't happen if upsample inside Roon to DSD256 instead of HQPlayer.
 
Oct 14, 2021 at 10:03 AM Post #4,548 of 6,226
Bought this yesterday. Might be my favorite hi-fi related purchase, ever. It's that good. Only problem now is that eventually I'll have to replace all my other DACs with RMEs.
Congratulations!!

Are you using the RME as your headphone amplifier as well?

In other words, are you happy with the all-in-one function, or are you planning on adding a separate head amp to the RME?
 
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Oct 14, 2021 at 12:01 PM Post #4,549 of 6,226
Congratulations!!

Are you using the RME as your headphone amplifier as well?

In other words, are you happy with the all-in-one function, or are you planning on adding a separate head amp to the RME?
I'm using it as a headphone amplifier, yes, with a pair of Beyerdynamic DT770 250Ohm, mainly. Without EQ, it can drive them louder than I can bear listening to - and I like to listen loud!

When I add EQ and bass boost however, I can sense the limits of the amp, but only when I want to listen really loud. And when I mean really loud here, I'm talking just shy of club PA system levels of bass. It can definitely make the cans vibrate on your ears!

I listen to mainly electronic music and hip-hop so I'm very picky about bass and it has indeed satisfied me. When I crank it all the way, I can hear the drivers in my DT770s distort from what I think is them hitting the plastic shielding in front of them. This is all with about -2dB of headroom left on the ADI-2, so if it indeed isn't clipping, an amp wouldn't be of any use if the headphones themselves can't handle more volume. However I'm not sure as to whether this is because I'm reaching the limits of the amp or my cans.

On my other pairs of lower-impedance headphones (Grado SR125, Sennheiser HD25, Sennheiser HD280, Sony XB700, Slate VSX), there is PLENTY of power - I haven't even gone above -15dB with the bass boost activated for fear of ruining their drivers.

But for 200+Ohm headphones, if you're a basshead and like to listen loud, an amp probably wouldn't hurt. 200Ohm seems to be the ceiling for the amp in this, I would not be satisfied if i had 600Ohm headphones without an external amp. But in the end, you're buying this for the absolutely brilliant DAC and DSP - if you or your cans are power hungry, it only just scratches that itch.

I was actually shopping for an amp but ended buying this instead, and despite not having all the output power in the world at my disposal, both the EQ and DAC more than make up for it. My Beyers sound like they cost three times as much. Even my non-discerning girlfriend thought the difference between the ADI-2 and my old DAC was night and day, so you know the DAC in this thing is absolutely bonkers. It's a cliche, but I have found myself yet again rediscovering my music library.

Also related to all this – I'm very impressed with the metering on the unit, as it displays the output volume post-fader so you get a reading of the actual headroom left in the amp after all DSP operations and even the volume knob.

I'm going to bring the DT770s and ADI-2 along with me to a hi-fi shop tomorrow and see what (if any) improvements an amp might bring. Will report back.

But TL;DR: if you're listening on 250Ohm cans and don't want hearing loss, it's more than adequate. If you loooooove loud music (bring on the hate brigade), consider pairing it with an amp later on, and you're honestly set for life.
 
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Oct 14, 2021 at 1:10 PM Post #4,552 of 6,226
Hello am interested in RME ADI 2 FS and is it recommended for sound quality apart from endless of features ? I feel like all dac are the same. Like whats the difference between all neutral dac and other dac...
 
Oct 14, 2021 at 1:44 PM Post #4,553 of 6,226
Yes, unfortunately. I would love if this wasn't the case tho :L3000:
There is always the ADI-2 Pro and use both outputs as balanced for extra power.
 
Oct 14, 2021 at 3:50 PM Post #4,554 of 6,226
Hello am interested in RME ADI 2 FS and is it recommended for sound quality apart from endless of features ? I feel like all dac are the same. Like whats the difference between all neutral dac and other dac...
You sound like my wife. "All coffee tastes the same." Guess what, it doesn't. But if you don't have the taste buds for it or your brain refuses to acknowledge the differences then by all means, buy the cheapest one and be a happy camper.
To answer your question, yes, the sound quality is very good for the price, especially if you count all the features in.
 
Oct 14, 2021 at 3:54 PM Post #4,555 of 6,226
You sound like my wife. "All coffee tastes the same." Guess what, it doesn't. But if you don't have the taste buds for it or your brain refuses to acknowledge the differences then by all means, buy the cheapest one and be a happy camper.
To answer your question, yes, the sound quality is very good for the price, especially if you count all the features in.
I love the coffee analogy. It is so true.
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 3:28 AM Post #4,556 of 6,226
You sound like my wife. "All coffee tastes the same." Guess what, it doesn't. But if you don't have the taste buds for it or your brain refuses to acknowledge the differences then by all means, buy the cheapest one and be a happy camper.
To answer your question, yes, the sound quality is very good for the price, especially if you count all the features in.
Am not asking about whether sound good with the price. Am referring to this dac versus more expensive dac sound wise ? Without taking features into consideration
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 3:29 AM Post #4,557 of 6,226
I'm using it as a headphone amplifier, yes, with a pair of Beyerdynamic DT770 250Ohm, mainly. Without EQ, it can drive them louder than I can bear listening to - and I like to listen loud!

When I add EQ and bass boost however, I can sense the limits of the amp, but only when I want to listen really loud. And when I mean really loud here, I'm talking just shy of club PA system levels of bass. It can definitely make the cans vibrate on your ears!

I listen to mainly electronic music and hip-hop so I'm very picky about bass and it has indeed satisfied me. When I crank it all the way, I can hear the drivers in my DT770s distort from what I think is them hitting the plastic shielding in front of them. This is all with about -2dB of headroom left on the ADI-2, so if it indeed isn't clipping, an amp wouldn't be of any use if the headphones themselves can't handle more volume. However I'm not sure as to whether this is because I'm reaching the limits of the amp or my cans.

On my other pairs of lower-impedance headphones (Grado SR125, Sennheiser HD25, Sennheiser HD280, Sony XB700, Slate VSX), there is PLENTY of power - I haven't even gone above -15dB with the bass boost activated for fear of ruining their drivers.

But for 200+Ohm headphones, if you're a basshead and like to listen loud, an amp probably wouldn't hurt. 200Ohm seems to be the ceiling for the amp in this, I would not be satisfied if i had 600Ohm headphones without an external amp. But in the end, you're buying this for the absolutely brilliant DAC and DSP - if you or your cans are power hungry, it only just scratches that itch.

I was actually shopping for an amp but ended buying this instead, and despite not having all the output power in the world at my disposal, both the EQ and DAC more than make up for it. My Beyers sound like they cost three times as much. Even my non-discerning girlfriend thought the difference between the ADI-2 and my old DAC was night and day, so you know the DAC in this thing is absolutely bonkers. It's a cliche, but I have found myself yet again rediscovering my music library.

Also related to all this – I'm very impressed with the metering on the unit, as it displays the output volume post-fader so you get a reading of the actual headroom left in the amp after all DSP operations and even the volume knob.

I'm going to bring the DT770s and ADI-2 along with me to a hi-fi shop tomorrow and see what (if any) improvements an amp might bring. Will report back.

But TL;DR: if you're listening on 250Ohm cans and don't want hearing loss, it's more than adequate. If you loooooove loud music (bring on the hate brigade), consider pairing it with an amp later on, and you're honestly set for life.
Hello any news ? What is your impression ?
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 1:06 PM Post #4,558 of 6,226
Am not asking about whether sound good with the price. Am referring to this dac versus more expensive dac sound wise ? Without taking features into consideration
This being my secondary setup, I haven't really compared it to many dacs in this price range apart from the Chord Qutest. They're different in presentation and for what type of music I listen the RME was better, better bass and highs extension, a bit colder but better defined, the downside is that it has a rather flat soundstage, the Qutest has more depth and layering.
 
Oct 16, 2021 at 2:35 PM Post #4,559 of 6,226
Question for anybody knowledgeable about the ADI-2 and BluRay/DVD audio:

I recently bought a CD that came with a bonus DVD disc of the album in lossless 24/48 and 24/96. I noted that when I try to play the latter (which is 5.1) the ADI-2 gives me an error message stating "non-audio signal at SPDF" or something like that. Not sure if there are settings I need to adjust on the ADI-2 or this is just a limitation of the unit. The audio comes out of the TV just fine (via HDMI) and the ADI-2 is receiving digital signal from the BluRay player via the SPDF coax input.
 
Oct 16, 2021 at 2:40 PM Post #4,560 of 6,226
Question for anybody knowledgeable about the ADI-2 and BluRay/DVD audio:

I recently bought a CD that came with a bonus DVD disc of the album in lossless 24/48 and 24/96. I noted that when I try to play the latter (which is 5.1) the ADI-2 gives me an error message stating "non-audio signal at SPDF" or something like that. Not sure if there are settings I need to adjust on the ADI-2 or this is just a limitation of the unit. The audio comes out of the TV just fine (via HDMI) and the ADI-2 is receiving digital signal from the BluRay player via the SPDF coax input.
ADI-2 DAC is 2 channel and you are asking to decode 5.1
 

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