REVIEW: Audiotailor “Jade” Vacuum Tube Headphone Amplifier
Sep 26, 2009 at 12:49 PM Post #556 of 975
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Originally Posted by BigTony /img/forum/go_quote.gif
First impression: much bigger than it looks in the pictures, bigger than my DV332 (and I thought that was a big amp) - and the 6AS7G is a monster - its a headphone amp not a nuclear power station!


What exactly are the dimensions of this amp? HxWxD isn't listed on the website. I recall a post somewhere mentioning it was around 10" high I think, but I can't find it now. Anyone care to do some quick measurements and post the dimensions?
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Sep 26, 2009 at 12:53 PM Post #557 of 975
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userlander:

I'm sure they sound great with the Jade - IF - you already like the sound signature of those exact phones. Personally I hate the DT800 and swapped them with a pair of HD650 some time ago. The Jade is awesome and if you pair it with phones you already like, then I'm sure you're gonna be alright
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I see - thanks for clarifying. From the way it was worded, it seemed like you were saying all the other phones sounded great with it, but the 880/250s didn't for some reason. If it's just a personal preference thing, I shouldn't have a problem since I really like the 880/250s (and think I would probably like the 880/600s even more), and don't particularly like senns. :p
 
Sep 26, 2009 at 1:04 PM Post #558 of 975
Sure, with the tube cage on, it's about 8.5" high, 11" deep counting volume knob and rear jacks, 7.5" wide. And weighs roughly 10 lbs.

There is a Jade tube rolling thread... mostly my own experiences, but some others have chimed in. I would stick with 6AS7G/5998 and 12AX7/5751, but I'm not so familiar with other near variants of these to know if there are others that would work.
 
Sep 26, 2009 at 1:29 PM Post #559 of 975
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Originally Posted by PaulyT /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Sure, with the tube cage on, it's about 8.5" high, 11" deep counting volume knob and rear jacks, 7.5" wide. And weighs roughly 10 lbs.


omg - that's a monster.
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I don't know if I would have room for it in my listening space.

If someone can assure me it would definitely sound leagues better than something like a LD Mk III/IV, Millet mini, DV336, etc. I might just try to accommodate it somehow, but otherwise I might have to go with one of these physically smaller amps.
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Sep 26, 2009 at 1:32 PM Post #560 of 975
It's really only very marginally bigger than a DV 336SE, and definitely does sound better, and especially with lower impedance headphones.
 
Sep 26, 2009 at 1:49 PM Post #561 of 975
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It's really only very marginally bigger than a DV 336SE, and definitely does sound better, and especially with lower impedance headphones.


Oh really - DV is fairly large also, huh? Just from the various web pics I was under the impression it was something more like around 4" wide (which believe it or not makes a big difference over 7.5"!) and just generally smaller. I probably would have chosen Jade over DV anyway just on price/performance reasons, but the LD and Millet mini are *definitely* more user friendly in this space, and very tempting because of that.

Joe, you've got to work on some smaller enclosures!
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Sep 26, 2009 at 1:52 PM Post #562 of 975
Boy you'd be in trouble with most of the tube amps I use then
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- I consider the 336 and Jade to be "mini-amps"!
 
Sep 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM Post #563 of 975
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Boy you'd be in trouble with most of the tube amps I use then
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- I consider the 336 and Jade to be "mini-amps"!



heh heh.
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I can probably make the Jade work, I was just a little caught off guard at first, not having expected it to be quite that size. It's going to be hard to pass up for $300 shipped, that's for sure.
 
Sep 26, 2009 at 4:55 PM Post #565 of 975
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Oh really - DV is fairly large also, huh? Just from the various web pics I was under the impression it was something more like around 4" wide (which believe it or not makes a big difference over 7.5"!) and just generally smaller. I probably would have chosen Jade over DV anyway just on price/performance reasons, but the LD and Millet mini are *definitely* more user friendly in this space, and very tempting because of that.

Joe, you've got to work on some smaller enclosures!
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It is hard to reduce size due to transformers & tube size. May be can build a new model with double desk !
 
Sep 27, 2009 at 7:29 AM Post #567 of 975
Just thought I'd add my random thoughts while I hunt down some NOS tubes (got my hands on some Sylvania 5751's and Chatham 6AS7G's and Mullard 12AX7's) - after leaving the amp on for 24 hours and dipping in/out for a few hours with my HD650's in SE mode.
Soundstage is still a little cramped, but the detail level is very high, I played the MFSL Equinox last night (one of my favourite critical listening CD's) and it was beginning to sound very nice, nice bass, not bloated. Only using the right-hand output (tubey) and I will go balanced mode today.
I'm hoping that some better tubes in there will open the soundstage up, and possible more time warming these tubes in too. Still, a very decent amp, enjoying mysef atm - which is what its all about.
 
Sep 27, 2009 at 1:05 PM Post #568 of 975
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Originally Posted by BigTony /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Just thought I'd add my random thoughts while I hunt down some NOS tubes (got my hands on some Sylvania 5751's and Chatham 6AS7G's and Mullard 12AX7's) - after leaving the amp on for 24 hours and dipping in/out for a few hours with my HD650's in SE mode.
Soundstage is still a little cramped, but the detail level is very high, I played the MFSL Equinox last night (one of my favourite critical listening CD's) and it was beginning to sound very nice, nice bass, not bloated. Only using the right-hand output (tubey) and I will go balanced mode today.
I'm hoping that some better tubes in there will open the soundstage up, and possible more time warming these tubes in too. Still, a very decent amp, enjoying mysef atm - which is what its all about.



Have people found that this amp requires a lot of "burn in?" It seems like it would need relatively little, compared to something like a Compass, for example.

Just ordered mine -- now off to find some tubes.
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Sep 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM Post #569 of 975
Sorry if this has already been answered in the thread, but i'm curious to know how effectively the jade can drive high impedance/low sensitivity cans (hd650/k701).i'm interested in the jade, but only if it has enough power push my hardest cans.
 
Sep 27, 2009 at 3:30 PM Post #570 of 975
Actually, the lower the impedance the more current the amp needs to generate... so generally high impedance are easier to drive, I think, at least for tube amps, not sure if the same applies to ss. And K701 @ 62ohm is not exactly high impedance, though higher than some.

Anyway I used K701s with the Jade for many months (until my recent switch to D5000), and it handled it great.
 

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