RAAL 1995 Immanis

[ThanatosVI]

I really just want to go back to a time when we were just talking about Immanis.
So here's a cool picture I took of @ApertureSilence's Immanis (with a cameo of my 1:1 Verité Open and T+A HA 200 in the background).

I quite like the Immanis and Ha200 but never heard them together.

How is the pairing?
Which impedance setting are you using?
Do you use the Loudness or EQ functions?

 

[Aleksandar R.]

I quite like the Immanis and Ha200 but never heard them together.

How is the pairing?
Which impedance setting are you using?
Do you use the Loudness or EQ functions?

I second these questions, wanting to know the same.

 

[Ishcabible]

Interesting and daring article about the professional hatred around Immanis...
This mirrors a lot of my thoughts about the divisiveness around this topic.

https://www.androidheadlines.com/un...tics-rushed-judgments-and-hidden-agendas.html

(Posting here as a gentle topic of discussion. I really don't want to start any flame wars— I'm quite tired of being beat down for sharing my opinion)

I don’t have any skin in this game but as someone that spends days or even weeks writing reviews, I do take some offense to the fact that this was mostly AI generated:

But to go back on topic, I can’t say I’m surprised that the Immanis isn’t universally loved as I felt it sounded colored enough and probably leak sensitive enough that personal enjoyment will depend on how forgiving you are of certain quirks or the kind of haircut the listener has. My hair is somewhat thick and isn’t buzzed so the way I perceived the bass as being not unlike “Stax fart” is likely related to seal.

 

[ThanatosVI]

I don’t have any skin in this game but as someone that spends days or even weeks writing reviews, I do take some offense to the fact that this was mostly AI generated:

Well the Deklaration of independence also calculates as over 70% AI generated... I wouldn't trust those calculations

 

[MichRT]

Well the Deklaration of independence also calculates as over 70% AI generated... I wouldn't trust those calculations

QuillBot, Copyleaks, GPTZero, and Scribr all mark the Declaration of Independence as over 98% "highly confident" human writing.

Did you try this before posting? If so, may I know where?

 

[Ishcabible]

Well the Deklaration of independence also calculates as over 70% AI generated... I wouldn't trust those calculations

I tried a different site just to give the benefit of the doubt:


Whereas the Declaration of Independence gave me this:

 

[ThanatosVI]

Did you try this before posting? If so, may I know where?

Not recently, has been a while ago.
I don't remember which Tool I used back then.

I just remembered the result as it was pretty absurd.

Good to see that the quality of those Tools improved.

 

[MAISONOBE AALAIN]

Unfortunately, given the price, only a handful of enthusiasts will have the pleasure of having this headset on their ears.
I sometimes find the treble a little "cristallin" but it's really marginal
I have 2 friends who are passionate like me and who compared it to my Shangri Senior at home for a whole afternoon for one and the evening and the next morning for the other.
One of them built a polymer electrostatic that made me sell my Stax 9000....
The Immanis won without any subtlety.
The Immanis is a very large headset, that's indisputable, which has a major flaw, if I dare say: it is sensitive to everything that is upstream including the modulation cable!!
You absolutely have to try it on your system before buying it!

 

[Leto Dal]

You are derailing the thread

But to go back on topic, I can’t say I’m surprised that the Immanis isn’t universally loved as I felt it sounded colored enough and probably leak sensitive enough that personal enjoyment will depend on how forgiving you are of certain quirks or the kind of haircut the listener has. My hair is somewhat thick and isn’t buzzed so the way I perceived the bass as being not unlike “Stax fart” is likely related to seal.

Does the seal actually matter with Immanis? I somehow though because of the ribbon drivers, its rather tolerant to bad seal with no major downsides?

 

[ThanatosVI]

Does the seal actually matter with Immanis? I somehow though because of the ribbon drivers, its rather tolerant to bad seal with no major downsides

It does not, which is an amazing feature for me as someone with a beard.

 

[tjkohli]

I quite like the Immanis and Ha200 but never heard them together.

How is the pairing?
Which impedance setting are you using?
Do you use the Loudness or EQ functions?

I second these questions, wanting to know the same.

Of course, I'd be happy to share. I think me and @ApertureSilence (I'll let him chime in as well) are probably the only people in the world who have heard Immanis on HA 200, lol.

Alas, my impressions were limited in time and maybe 10 minutes so I cannot draw too many conclusions, but I will be using my HA 200 to drive my Immanis full time when mine comes, at which point I will share many many impressions and thoughts.

Here's my short thoughts on Immanis + HA 200:

• More than enough power to drive it, running it around -10 volume was quite loud and enjoyable
• Great pairing overall, lots of synergy and power
• Tons (TONS) of detail. HA 200 is a detail monster
• Neutral sound overall with very nice mids. I know some people said Immanis has recessed mids but in this pairing the mids were right there.
• Great soundstage and spatial positioning

Settings
This is where I made a couple mistakes. I listened using the DSD side of DAC which I later discovered is a bit more analytical but leaner than the Burr Brown PCM side. Because of this, I wasn’t able to experience the thunderous Immanis sub bass for myself.

The other mistake I did for half of my session was run it on 80R which has the largest resistance in the output. This reduced dynamics. Later, I switched to 8R which is the lowest setting, and it was a huge difference not only in much louder volume but also huge dynamics from the quietest sound to the largest.

One thing I noticed — is that compared to my other headphones, with Immanis and my amp, I found myself adjusting the volume with every song and even in the middle of the song. This tells me that this pair is extreme dynamics, but more so it’s the Immanis.

These are loosely held impressions, and I’ll definitely follow up once I receive my Immanis and get to know them.

 

[Exekuhtor]

One thing I noticed — is that compared to my other headphones, with Immanis and my amp, I found myself adjusting the volume with every song and even in the middle of the song. This tells me that this pair is extreme dynamics, but more so it’s the Immanis.

That is something a lot of owners seem to struggle with more, compared to other headphones.
I also experienced this, i ascribed it to the recessed mids, i wanted to hear voices "normally loud", when in reality that was not possible without also bumping up the volume in other aspects that naturally become to loud quickly (especially treble of course, because bass is not that disruptive in comparison). I also described that in my review, that people want "more", so they turn the volume up before quickly realizing that it was too much.
Some users claim that it's the higher dynamic range of the Immanis, i don't know. Maybe it is? But still, i think that having to adjust the volume multiple times within a song, not even album, is not a good thing. But who am i to judge, i also don't listen that much to classical music, the one genre with the highest dynamic swings that exist. Maybe i'm wrong. Dynamic range within a headphone is a topic i'm very unfimiliar with, it never really bothered me, and i think i didn't notice that much of a difference between the usual (TOTL) headphones i owned. Maybe because, as i said, i mostly listen to genres that don't have a much bigger than usual dynamic range to begin with. Or maybe if a headphone i listened to that was sounding compressed, i dismissed it for other reasons.

How is the T+A HA200 as an all-in-one unit? Are you very satifsied with both the DAC / amp portion? Is the sound completely different to tubes?
Oh, and my Immanis should arrive next weak. Can't wait.

 

[tjkohli]

How is the T+A HA200 as an all-in-one unit? Are you very satifsied with both the DAC / amp portion?

Amazing. Yes it’s fantastic. I would describe it as close to TOTL headphone amp, and TOTL DAC. It’s basically a DAC 200, which is legendary, but also has a capable headphone amplifier built in.

It’s a Swiss Army knife. I don’t really call it an all in one because it doesn’t have any streamer capability. It’s just a DAC and headamp together.

Is the sound completely different to tubes?

It’s totally solid state so of course very different than tubes. It’s a clean, powerful sound with little to no coloration. Crystal clear mids and highs. Tons of detail. Powerful yet controlled bass with Immanis.

 

[Exekuhtor]

Amazing. Yes it’s fantastic. I would describe it as close to TOTL headphone amp, and TOTL DAC. It’s basically a DAC 200, which is legendary, but also has a capable headphone amplifier built in.

It’s a Swiss Army knife. I don’t really call it an all in one because it doesn’t have any streamer capability. It’s just a DAC and headamp together.

It’s totally solid state so of course very different than tubes. It’s a clean, powerful sound with little to no coloration. Crystal clear mids and highs. Tons of detail. Powerful yet controlled bass with Immanis.

Yeah, that's basically what i want. I don't need a streamer. I want something that is powerful, clean, completely different than my May / Envy setup, but also above something like Topping, but below the really TOTL solid state amps like a Zähl / 465 etc., and ideally both DAC + amp below 8k€.
Hmmm...

 

[tjkohli]

Yeah, that's basically what i want. I don't need a streamer. I want something that is powerful, clean, completely different than my May / Envy setup, but also above something like Topping, but below the really TOTL solid state amps like a Zähl / 465 etc., and ideally both DAC + amp below 8k€.
Hmmm...

I think you’d be really happy with it. It’s like right below the God tier DACs and amps in a convenient, beautiful, high quality package with a ton of cool settings and features. The VU meters are a nice touch too.