[Mad Lust Envy]

What does that have to do with what I said? And from what I've heard, BF4 runs at 60fps for both consoles, so I dunno where you got that from. Even if it were true, ps4 runs most multiplat games better. The new Metal Gear will run at 1080p/60fps on ps4, 720 for XB1. Tomb Raider almost always runs at 60, while its 30 or less on XB1. Yeah, I'll stick with the ps4.

http://bf4central.com/2013/11/battlefield-4-running-ps4-60-fps-video/

BF4 video at 60fps on PS4... (keep the vid windowed )

 

[martin vegas]

What does that have to do with what I said? And from what I've heard, BF4 runs at 60fps for both consoles, so I dunno where you got that from. Even if it were true, ps4 runs most multiplat games better. The new Metal Gear will run at 1080p/60fps on ps4, 720 for XB1. Tomb Raider almost always runs at 60, while its 30 or less on XB1. Yeah, I'll stick with the ps4.

http://bf4central.com/2013/11/battlefield-4-running-ps4-60-fps-video/

BF4 video at 60fps on PS4... (keep the vid windowed )

Ok, my bad don't bite my head off!

 

[Rhino73]

Dreamcast FTW!

 

[martin vegas]

Can I still use my arcam r dac over optical with a ps4? my dac has no decoders and will only accept a stereo signal!

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Yes. All you have to do is set the PS4 to digital stereo.

 

[Zombie_X]

martin vegas,
 
Yeah you can use your DAC with the PS4. Set the audio output to LPCM and set the output device as Optical. Tried with my V800 DAC and it worked fine.
 
I got my Fidelio X1's in and they are great. They are good as a gaming headphone as well. Paired them with a V-Moda mic cable and all is well.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Kinda like an easier to listen DT990, right? A lot less treble peak, open, bassy.

 

[rc10mike]

Both next gen consoles are a complete joke IMO. Sure, you get slightly improved graphics, and a new controller, but one would expect Next Gen to be able to do EVERYTHING the last gen could do and THEN some.
 
Not the case this time, both next gen consoles lack even simple features that previous gen had. Its a shame IMO.

 

[Zombie_X]

  Both next gen consoles are a complete joke IMO. Sure, you get slightly improved graphics, and a new controller, but one would expect Next Gen to be able to do EVERYTHING the last gen could do and THEN some.
 
Not the case this time, both next gen consoles lack even simple features that previous gen had. Its a shame IMO.

 
I feel you man. The PS4 is missing a lot of functionality that the PS3 had. Can't believe Sony thought we didn't want CD playback or media servers... not to mention video/audio file playback...
 
MLE, I find it to be nothing like the DT990. I find the DT990 to be superior in terms of detail and transparency, but it's not as intimate and involving as the X1. The X1 also had more midbass and it's more defined and controlled. What I like most is the upfront midrange. Not thin or hollowed, nice and full. Kamelot sounds really goo on this headphone.
 

 
The X1 is really good and is kinda like the HD650, but a ton less muddy and hazy sounding, so I like it more than the HD650. It has just enough treble energy to sound energetic while not being strident or harsh, the perfect balance! It's much better than I expected. Makes me want to try the L1 now and have that for portable use.
 
SORRY TO DERAIL!!

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Oh, I don't mean it sounds like the DT990, but that it does similar things:

Open, airy, mid bass emphasized, energetic treble (though way less than the 990). I say it makes the 990 obsolete, really. The 990 is more refined, but much more polarizing and least likely to please the general population.

I guess I would say it's a middle ground between the 990 and the 650. The 3 bassy open dynamics. Not many of those out there.

 

[Zombie_X]

I could easily agree with it being the middle ground. It has aspects of each. More like all the strengths of each. I prefer it's sonic tone/presentation to either of those, but not dethroning either. 

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. The 990 and 650 are 'more' than the X1, but the X1's balance and middle ground characteristics of both make it more appealing than either.

 

[martin vegas]

What do I need to get a ps4 online and play bf4, apart from the game and premium?

 

[FlipE]

Such a hard choice.. I think PS4 cause I've had the Xbox for so long. I hear bad things about Microsoft now, though I still love the Xbox, haha.

 

[1337rice]

  What do I need to get a ps4 online and play bf4, apart from the game and premium?

Playstation Plus subscription 
 
But seriously, I bought a PS4 and it's just been collecting dust. I've used it more for Crackle than playing games. Heck, I turn on the PS3 more often than the PS4. Just because your friends have one, there's seriously no pressure if you don't have a PS4 or even a Xbox One, there isn't anything worth buying these consoles.