Prog rock

Jun 18, 2025 at 6:25 AM Post #5,611 of 5,626
Eloy-Ocean: their most successful album

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Jun 18, 2025 at 9:04 AM Post #5,613 of 5,626
Eloy-Ocean: their most successful album

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This was the only album of theirs I heard back in the day, (though never owning it myself). Recently I’ve heard the rest of their catalogue and there’s a number of crackers in there. In particular the albums immediately before and after this one - Dawn and Silent Cries and Mighty Echos. Anyone else just familiar with this album would be highly encouraged to explore further.
 
Jun 18, 2025 at 11:30 AM Post #5,614 of 5,626
This is pretty decent, but there are two quite brilliant tracks in the middle (Valhalla and Lost at Sea) which could be the best new tracks I’ve heard this year, shame the rest doesn’t quite match up, but well worth a listen.

Since this is their first album, I'm hoping they stay together and, as they develop, we get more consistent albums in the future. For a debut, I was suitably impressed and they've certainly got a high enough ceiling that I'll be keeping track of their future work.

To keep things topical, one of the guys I'm working with on a prog/prog-metal project has been sending me various albums, tracks, and artists to check out. this morning he sent me an album released earlier this week from a Russian prog-metal outfit named Dark Matter Secret. I've come across quite a few solid Russian contributions to the genre lately and these guys are no exception. I'm only a little over halfway through and there's a lot here to enjoy.

New Matter (rel. 2025) by Dark Matter Secret

 
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Jun 18, 2025 at 3:33 PM Post #5,615 of 5,626
Being a guitarist, there’s obviously some amazing guitarists in the Metal field, but I just can’t listen to much of the material. E.g. you are probably aware of the band Wintersun, there’s a stunning solo in the track Winter Madness, but I just can’t listen to the track, because after 10 seconds the drums have just pissed me off so much I have to turn it off :triportsad:

I know exactly what you mean, I can’t get into Wintersun either. Honestly, the production on all their albums, including the new one, is pretty bad. And I’ve never been into bands with power or speed metal influences. Kai is a solid drummer, no question, but I definitely prefer his more "restrained" work with Nightwish and Swallow the Sun.

The differences in our tastes is definitely a strength of this thread. For example, when it comes to the more metal side of things listening to some of your recs has actually pushed me to explore and better define where the boundaries are for me on what goes too far for me and what can take an album that might normally be too heavy for my preferences and pull it back into the enjoyable realm. It has expanded my horizons and I really appreciate that about this thread and having guys like you participating in it. 😎

That’s awesome to hear! I’m always a bit hesitant to drop heavier stuff in here since most folks seem more into classic prog-rock. Maybe we should ask the mod to rename the thread Prog Rock & Prog Metal, that would probably help bring in more people to share music with us. Let’s be honest, prog-rock kind of makes it sound like we’re just here to talk about Yes, Genesis, and Pink Floyd lol.

Alright, back to this thread, what do you all think of the new Katatonia? I was traveling last week and only got around to listening to it recently, and honestly… I'm pretty disappointed. I gave it three spins, and so far only a couple of tracks really stand out. It just feels like they’re on autopilot, the spark’s missing. Some parts even sound like they could’ve been written by AI. It’s a shame. They used to be one of my favorite bands. That said, I had a bad feeling when I heard Anders was out. He always felt like the heart and soul of Katatonia, and I don’t think it’ll ever be quite the same without him. Really hoping he brings back Diabolical Masquerade someday.

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Jun 18, 2025 at 3:42 PM Post #5,616 of 5,626
That’s awesome to hear! I’m always a bit hesitant to drop heavier stuff in here since most folks seem more into classic prog-rock. Maybe we should ask the mod to rename the thread Prog Rock & Prog Metal, that would probably help bring in more people to share music with us. Let’s be honest, prog-rock kind of makes it sound like we’re just here to talk about Yes, Genesis, and Pink Floyd lol.

Alright, back to this thread, what do you all think of the new Katatonia? I was traveling last week and only got around to listening to it recently, and honestly… I'm pretty disappointed. I gave it three spins, and so far only a couple of tracks really stand out. It just feels like they’re on autopilot, the spark’s missing. Some parts even sound like they could’ve been written by AI. It’s a shame. They used to be one of my favorite bands. That said, I had a bad feeling when I heard Anders was out. He always felt like the heart and soul of Katatonia, and I don’t think it’ll ever be quite the same without him. Really hoping he brings back Diabolical Masquerade someday.

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Don't worry about posting heavier stuff, prog has become a very wide field and there's nothing saying we have to like all of it. I think of this thread like a restaurant, I don't have to like everything on the menu to enjoy eating there.
As for the Katatonia album, I too gave it three listens and am done with it, it didn't strike me as anything special at all, pleasant enough but literally nothing stands out.
 
Jun 18, 2025 at 5:35 PM Post #5,617 of 5,626
I think of this thread like a restaurant, I don't have to like everything on the menu to enjoy eating there.

That's pretty much a perfect analogy. Nicely put.
 
Jun 18, 2025 at 7:13 PM Post #5,618 of 5,626
I know exactly what you mean, I can’t get into Wintersun either. Honestly, the production on all their albums, including the new one, is pretty bad. And I’ve never been into bands with power or speed metal influences. Kai is a solid drummer, no question, but I definitely prefer his more "restrained" work with Nightwish and Swallow the Sun.

Wintersun is tricky. It's too speedy for me combined with the mediocre production makes it a hard listen. Need to be in a certain mood. I do enjoy Time 1.5 once in a blue moon because it actually sounds decent. I just don't expect Norah Jones quality of production with most metal genres haha
 
Jun 18, 2025 at 10:05 PM Post #5,619 of 5,626
Frontiers (2025) by Paradigm Blue - This North Carolina trio do a very good job of stepping back into the late 70's and sounding a lot like classic Rush. Being a big Rush fan and that my three favourite albums of theirs are 2112, A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres, I really wanted to hate this album but that hasn't been the case, far from it in fact, I'm on my third playthrough and counting. Listening on Qobuz so I fully expect it to be on the other streamers.

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Jun 18, 2025 at 10:13 PM Post #5,620 of 5,626
Frontiers (2025) by Paradigm Blue - This North Carolina trio do a very good job of stepping back into the late 70's and sounding a lot like classic Rush. Being a big Rush fan and that my three favourite albums of theirs are 2112, A Farewell To Kings and Hemispheres, I really wanted to hate this album but that hasn't been the case, far from it in fact, I'm on my third playthrough and counting. Listening on Qobuz so I fully expect it to be on the other streamers.

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I like this as I liked their previous albums, but the production on this one is not great.
 
Jun 18, 2025 at 10:37 PM Post #5,621 of 5,626
I like this as I liked their previous albums, but the production on this one is not great.
Sadly their two earlier albums are not available on Qobuz so I'm just playing this one over and over :D
 
Jun 18, 2025 at 11:31 PM Post #5,622 of 5,626
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Hats off Gentlemen It’s Adequate- The Uncertainty Principle

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Jun 19, 2025 at 2:00 AM Post #5,623 of 5,626
I was just cruisin' through my library and landed on Greg Rapaport's 2012 album, Sojourn. It's very much a product of it's time, with a sound that pegs it as being from that mid-00s to early-10s prog era. The production is a little amateurish, but his talent, having assembled this whole album himself, is undeniable and this is such a fun album to listen to.

 
Jun 19, 2025 at 1:36 PM Post #5,625 of 5,626
Now Playing:
Hats off Gentlemen It’s Adequate- The Uncertainty Principle

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Very good band, brilliant name and they make excellent music too - I gave this one a good few listens when it was released back in March - now that I've had my memory jogged I think I'll add another listen or two to the count
 

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