Precog's IEM Reviews & Impressions

Nov 11, 2022 at 11:44 PM Post #2,881 of 3,716
64 Audio Fourte Blanc Impressions

Price: $3700
Configuration: 1DD/3BA
Unit provided on loan for review by Headphones.com:
https://headphones.com/products/tia-fourte-blanc?_pos=1&_psq=four&_ss=e&_v=1.0

fourteblanc.jpg

Where to begin? I actually heard the prototype that would become the Fourte Blanc all the way back in April of this year. At the time, I wrote down some brief impressions:

Sounded more like the Tia Trio IMO. Slightly less bass than Trio but still sub-bass focused. More 3-5kHz than their other models and slightly sibilant. Pretty bright, really good resolution.

Admittedly, I think that the production version of the Fourte Blanc that I have on hand now sounds different (mostly with respect to the level of elevation from 1-5kHz), but my memory is far too fuzzy at this point to really verify. One thing is abundantly clear either way: I am not particularly enthusiastic about the sound of the production version Fourte Blanc, and it is best considered an acquired taste like the original Fourte.

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Now credit where credit is due, the Fourte Blanc does have measurable adjustments to its bass response. It’s been reigned in for a cleaner sub-bass focus and eschewed some of the puffiness that I recall plaguing its predecessor. But I still don’t find the Fourte Blanc’s bass to be noteworthy for a sense of attack crispness compared to something like the IER-Z1R (which I have for direct A/B and don’t even find entirely impressive for bass these days). It also doesn't have the tasteful softness to attack, with the subsequent impact and thickness, that characterizes the bass of the Tia Trio. The Fourte Blanc has an inoffensive bass response to be sure, but this is a miss to me given that the Fourte Blanc is significantly more expensive than either IEM.

To circle back to the comments on acquired taste, something that I cannot turn a blind eye to every time I hear the Fourte (and by extension the Fourte Blanc) is the midrange. It is extremely recessed around 1kHz. This leads to something of a cross between singers - especially those of the soprano persuasion - sounding like they are holding their nose, and singing into a cup, with me listening to the reverb. Perhaps what makes this phenomenon all the more disturbing is the excellent resolution of the Fourte Blanc that stems from the treble response. No way about it, the Fourte Blanc is a bright IEM. It doesn’t necessarily sound like it peaks in one specific region to wholly throw off treble tonality, it’s just…again, bright. Too bright, really, on a lot of tracks that I listen to. Foam tips help with this issue, but then you're killing the Fourte Blanc's technicalities.

Speaking of which, there is not really much point in discussing the technicalities of the Fourte Blanc because it is an IEM that is capsized by inception, for me, by virtue of its tonality. But as I alluded to above, yes, I find it very detailed. It sounds very open. It is fairly dynamic. I question how much of these impressions are simply a product of its very unique tonality, but I digress.

If you are someone in the market for the unique sound of the Fourte, then the Fourte Blanc is undoubtedly the better buy. The sound is a little more refined, the aesthetics are way nicer (in my opinion), and the extra cable tips the value proposition. But I think the better question might be the following: who’s in the market for a Fourte in the first place when the Tia Trio exists? At least what I would like to have seen is a special edition of the Tia Trio because the shells of the Fourte Blanc, and the new cables, are excellent steps forward irrespective of what I think of the sound.

Bias Score: 6/10

All critical listening done off of my iBasso DX300 and iPhone 13 Mini.
Thanks, I was waiting for this and it confirmed what I was thinking. I soooooooo want it for the quality, the build, the cable - I am drooling in fact. But I can get top of the line full blown headphones ( b stock) for the same price… Which means these IEM’s better be dam perfect in terms of tuning. Do a similar thing for the u12t’s and I’ll prepay upfront!
 
Nov 11, 2022 at 11:54 PM Post #2,882 of 3,716
64 Audio Fourte Blanc Impressions

Price: $3700
Configuration: 1DD/3BA
Unit provided on loan for review by Headphones.com:
https://headphones.com/products/tia-fourte-blanc?_pos=1&_psq=four&_ss=e&_v=1.0

fourteblanc.jpg

Where to begin? I actually heard the prototype that would become the Fourte Blanc all the way back in April of this year. At the time, I wrote down some brief impressions:

Sounded more like the Tia Trio IMO. Slightly less bass than Trio but still sub-bass focused. More 3-5kHz than their other models and slightly sibilant. Pretty bright, really good resolution.

Admittedly, I think that the production version of the Fourte Blanc that I have on hand now sounds different (mostly with respect to the level of elevation from 1-5kHz), but my memory is far too fuzzy at this point to really verify. One thing is abundantly clear either way: I am not particularly enthusiastic about the sound of the production version Fourte Blanc, and it is best considered an acquired taste like the original Fourte.

graph (7).png

Now credit where credit is due, the Fourte Blanc does have measurable adjustments to its bass response. It’s been reigned in for a cleaner sub-bass focus and eschewed some of the puffiness that I recall plaguing its predecessor. But I still don’t find the Fourte Blanc’s bass to be noteworthy for a sense of attack crispness compared to something like the IER-Z1R (which I have for direct A/B and don’t even find entirely impressive for bass these days). It also doesn't have the tasteful softness to attack, with the subsequent impact and thickness, that characterizes the bass of the Tia Trio. The Fourte Blanc has an inoffensive bass response to be sure, but this is a miss to me given that the Fourte Blanc is significantly more expensive than either IEM.

To circle back to the comments on acquired taste, something that I cannot turn a blind eye to every time I hear the Fourte (and by extension the Fourte Blanc) is the midrange. It is extremely recessed around 1kHz. This leads to something of a cross between singers - especially those of the soprano persuasion - sounding like they are holding their nose, and singing into a cup, with me listening to the reverb. Perhaps what makes this phenomenon all the more disturbing is the excellent resolution of the Fourte Blanc that stems from the treble response. No way about it, the Fourte Blanc is a bright IEM. It doesn’t necessarily sound like it peaks in one specific region to wholly throw off treble tonality, it’s just…again, bright. Too bright, really, on a lot of tracks that I listen to. Foam tips help with this issue, but then you're killing the Fourte Blanc's technicalities.

Speaking of which, there is not really much point in discussing the technicalities of the Fourte Blanc because it is an IEM that is capsized by inception, for me, by virtue of its tonality. But as I alluded to above, yes, I find it very detailed. It sounds very open. It is fairly dynamic. I question how much of these impressions are simply a product of its very unique tonality, but I digress.

If you are someone in the market for the unique sound of the Fourte, then the Fourte Blanc is undoubtedly the better buy. The sound is a little more refined, the aesthetics are way nicer (in my opinion), and the extra cable tips the value proposition. But I think the better question might be the following: who’s in the market for a Fourte in the first place when the Tia Trio exists? At least what I would like to have seen is a special edition of the Tia Trio because the shells of the Fourte Blanc, and the new cables, are excellent steps forward irrespective of what I think of the sound.

Bias Score: 6/10

All critical listening done off of my iBasso DX300 and iPhone 13 Mini.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/tgxear-discussion-thread.964894/ This thread I encourage you to read and even review one of the earbuds... I have the u12t, and while there are clearly differences between an IEM and an earbud... I think you might add one of these to your collection. I'll let you decide which one... but I think I know which one you'll keep. (I bought one and wow...., for an earbud...)
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 12:08 AM Post #2,883 of 3,716
64 Audio Fourte Blanc Impressions Price: $3700 Configuration: 1DD/3BA Unit provided on loan for review by Headphones.com: https://headphones.com/products/tia-fourte-blanc?_pos=1&_psq=four&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Where to begin? I actually heard the prototype that would become the Fourte Blanc all the way back in April of this year. At the time, I wrote down some brief impressions: Sounded more like the Tia Trio IMO. Slightly less bass than Trio but still sub-bass focused. More 3-5kHz than their other models and slightly sibilant. Pretty bright, really good resolution. Admittedly, I think that the production version of the Fourte Blanc that I have on hand now sounds different (mostly with respect to the level of elevation from 1-5kHz), but my memory is far too fuzzy at this point to really verify. One thing is abundantly clear either way: I am not particularly enthusiastic about the sound of the production version Fourte Blanc, and it is best considered an acquired taste like the original Fourte. Now credit where credit is due, the Fourte Blanc does have measurable adjustments to its bass response. It’s been reigned in for a cleaner sub-bass focus and eschewed some of the puffiness that I recall plaguing its predecessor. But I still don’t find the Fourte Blanc’s bass to be noteworthy for a sense of attack crispness compared to something like the IER-Z1R (which I have for direct A/B and don’t even find entirely impressive for bass these days). It also doesn't have the tasteful softness to attack, with the subsequent impact and thickness, that characterizes the bass of the Tia Trio. The Fourte Blanc has an inoffensive bass response to be sure, but this is a miss to me given that the Fourte Blanc is significantly more expensive than either IEM. To circle back to the comments on acquired taste, something that I cannot turn a blind eye to every time I hear the Fourte (and by extension the Fourte Blanc) is the midrange. It is extremely recessed around 1kHz. This leads to something of a cross between singers - especially those of the soprano persuasion - sounding like they are holding their nose, and singing into a cup, with me listening to the reverb. Perhaps what makes this phenomenon all the more disturbing is the excellent resolution of the Fourte Blanc that stems from the treble response. No way about it, the Fourte Blanc is a bright IEM. It doesn’t necessarily sound like it peaks in one specific region to wholly throw off treble tonality, it’s just…again, bright. Too bright, really, on a lot of tracks that I listen to. Foam tips help with this issue, but then you're killing the Fourte Blanc's technicalities. Speaking of which, there is not really much point in discussing the technicalities of the Fourte Blanc because it is an IEM that is capsized by inception, for me, by virtue of its tonality. But as I alluded to above, yes, I find it very detailed. It sounds very open. It is fairly dynamic. I question how much of these impressions are simply a product of its very unique tonality, but I digress. If you are someone in the market for the unique sound of the Fourte, then the Fourte Blanc is undoubtedly the better buy. The sound is a little more refined, the aesthetics are way nicer (in my opinion), and the extra cable tips the value proposition. But I think the better question might be the following: who’s in the market for a Fourte in the first place when the Tia Trio exists? At least what I would like to have seen is a special edition of the Tia Trio because the shells of the Fourte Blanc, and the new cables, are excellent steps forward irrespective of what I think of the sound. Bias Score: 6/10 All critical listening done off of my iBasso DX300 and iPhone 13 Mini.

Charging almost $4K for that graph should be illegal. 64 on some stuff for sure.
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 12:24 AM Post #2,884 of 3,716
Charging almost $4K for that graph should be illegal. 64 on some stuff for sure.
I would be curious to know what music they tuned for - as they must be perfect for something. I don't know what, and perhaps that needs to be part of the review. If you tune for a particular genre - that needs to be listed for the IEM, and reviews reflected accordingly. If you follow my link to the earbuds (previous post) - there's a discussion and recommendation regarding what music the buds should be used for. If I listen to classic music only, I'd likely pick a different IEM than the one I did. I paid a LOT attention to what music people listed and their age, where I could make it out from pictures/videos etc., (assuming their hearing would match mine).
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 12:25 AM Post #2,885 of 3,716
Charging almost $4K for that graph should be illegal. 64 on some stuff for sure.
The less extreme version of this 1k dip with proper ear gain (Trio) sounds quite cool. The sacrifice of tonal accuracy is just enough to trade for that air and open soundstage is worth it (to me).
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 12:28 AM Post #2,886 of 3,716
I would be curious to know what music they tuned for - as they must be perfect for something. I don't know what, and perhaps that needs to be part of the review. If you tune for a particular genre - that needs to be listed for the IEM, and reviews reflected accordingly. If you follow my link to the earbuds (previous post) - there's a discussion and recommendation regarding what music the buds should be used for. If I listen to classic music only, I'd likely pick a different IEM than the one I did. I paid a LOT attention to what music people listed and their age, where I could make it out from pictures/videos etc., (assuming their hearing would match mine).
1964 music? I watched entire interview of 64 audio boss one time (yes, I have no life), and it seems they were heavily influenced by the kind of “analog” sound that they grew up with.
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 12:52 AM Post #2,887 of 3,716
I would be curious to know what music they tuned for - as they must be perfect for something. I don't know what, and perhaps that needs to be part of the review. If you tune for a particular genre - that needs to be listed for the IEM, and reviews reflected accordingly. If you follow my link to the earbuds (previous post) - there's a discussion and recommendation regarding what music the buds should be used for. If I listen to classic music only, I'd likely pick a different IEM than the one I did. I paid a LOT attention to what music people listed and their age, where I could make it out from pictures/videos etc., (assuming their hearing would match mine).
Me too. I don’t recall any genre that doesn’t have mids in it.

Maybe the white/pink/brown noise genre hahaha?
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 12:53 AM Post #2,888 of 3,716
1964 music? I watched entire interview of 64 audio boss one time (yes, I have no life), and it seems they were heavily influenced by the kind of “analog” sound that they grew up with.
so fewer instrumentals/new music, but deep/rustic/analog/noisy recordings? I am getting a Cayin RU6 for that reason, measures like CRAP, but I've read virtually every single post in this forum and read the reviews of the guy who tested over 100 dongles... and about seven or so youtube reviews, and I got to have it even if I don't need it lol. The Hifiman EF400 is interesting for the same reason. I want a "dirty" old sound I can go to for more analog/older sounds.
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 12:56 AM Post #2,889 of 3,716
so fewer instrumentals/new music, but deep/rustic/analog/noisy recordings? I am getting a Cayin RU6 for that reason, measures like CRAP, but I've read virtually every single post in this forum and read the reviews of the guy who tested over 100 dongles... and about seven or so youtube reviews, and I got to have it even if I don't need it lol. The Hifiman EF400 is interesting for the same reason. I want a "dirty" old sound I can go to for more analog/older sounds.
If that’s what you’re going for you can probably find a lot of poorly tuned chifi for a lot cheaper 😆
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 1:02 AM Post #2,890 of 3,716
Nov 12, 2022 at 1:10 AM Post #2,891 of 3,716
so fewer instrumentals/new music, but deep/rustic/analog/noisy recordings? I am getting a Cayin RU6 for that reason, measures like CRAP, but I've read virtually every single post in this forum and read the reviews of the guy who tested over 100 dongles... and about seven or so youtube reviews, and I got to have it even if I don't need it lol. The Hifiman EF400 is interesting for the same reason. I want a "dirty" old sound I can go to for more analog/older sounds.

I think he was talking about old school rock music or something like that. In my head, what he described was more 70s or 80s, but what do I know, I was not born then :dt880smile:

I have no doubt that "dirty" old sound has its charm. After I told a staff at my local hifi store about how I review gears and what I look for, he was like "I was like you in the first few years, and then I switched to vinyl and stopped caring. You will be like that soon"
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 1:17 AM Post #2,892 of 3,716
I think he was talking about old school rock music or something like that. In my head, what he described was more 70s or 80s, but what do I know, I was not born then :dt880smile:

I have no doubt that "dirty" old sound has its charm. After I told a staff at my local hifi store about how I review gears and what I look for, he was like "I was like you in the first few years, and then I switched to vinyl and stopped caring. You will be like that soon"
I miss the sound of vinyl with some recordings - I mostly listen to modern music, and I tend to lean toward depressed women singers.... Like when Adelle breaks up, or someone is down (Rehab...) It's that deep emotional voice with real meaning... (I don't advocate for this..it is what it is). But some good classics from the 60-early 80's on vinyl (sound of dust...)
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 1:26 AM Post #2,893 of 3,716
Charging almost $4K for that graph should be illegal. 64 on some stuff for sure.
Not everything needs to measure close to some dudes target curve to sound good for all types of music and to all listeners preferences. I personally prefer the Fourte Noir/Blanc a hell of a lot more than Trio, and would choose it over Trio even if they were the same price.
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 1:34 AM Post #2,894 of 3,716
Not everything needs to measure close to some dudes target curve to sound good for all types of music and to all listeners preferences. I personally prefer the Fourte Noir/Blanc a hell of a lot more than Trio, and would choose it over Trio even if they were the same price.
That’s not what I said haha. Never mentioned his preference. All I’m saying is the 1K region looks questionable. I EQ it and sounds weird to me, but if you like it then my opinion don’t matter 😎
 
Nov 12, 2022 at 1:36 AM Post #2,895 of 3,716
I miss the sound of vinyl with some recordings - I mostly listen to modern music, and I tend to lean toward depressed women singers.... Like when Adelle breaks up, or someone is down (Rehab...) It's that deep emotional voice with real meaning... (I don't advocate for this..it is what it is). But some good classics from the 60-early 80's on vinyl (sound of dust...)
@o0genesis0o
Raptgo Hook-X has that old vinyl feel with great soundstage and costs under $300. Apparently really good according to HBB 👍
 

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