[Eee Pee]

You must not realize how many times you say you're going to post something but never do?

 

[Shaffer]

Exactly, where is a VMS20EMKII in high demand?

I had an Onkyo 'table just like the one for sale. It's a POS. I appreciate your desire to help people, but some of what you post is, well, lacking a foundation in reality.

 

[analogsurviver]

You must not realize how many times you say you're going to post something but never do?

Yes, I do. It is connected with properly presenting the things.
 
This TT , all its pros and cons, how to remove most, if not all of its cons, will be presented with pics, videos, measurements, audio - you name it - better than anything that went on before. It would be almost as good as being next to me and watching me doing it.
 
I had to gather the hardware and software to be able to do so, in itself quite an undertaking. Now, with most of required in place, I hope to have time during the usually dead season for recordings in summer - which this year somehow does not come. Which is a good thing - as it is not my hobby, but the way to make a living.

 

[analogsurviver]

Exactly, where is a VMS20EMKII in high demand?

I had an Onkyo 'table just like the one for sale. It's a POS. I appreciate your desire to help people, but some of what you post is, well, lacking a foundation in reality.

Have you ever heard VMS20EMKII on a good TT ? Into an optimised electrical load phono input ? In an arm that is not too massive to let it sing ? Against a MC that has to track at 2 grams ? With TWO new/mint pressings of the same LP, able to do A/B switching ? I did - the only thing I did not do (yet) is level matching to within 0.1 dB @1 kHz, as this would require at least one additional preamp in the chain. But I can do that too.
 
I agree Onkyo in its stock form is a POS - but then again, so are most of the TTs from the era, Thorens and Linn included - only a tiny bit better designed. With basically the very same flaws; they are FAR from being correct, and you can easily include the biggest Thorens models in this group - not only the comparatively lowly Linn.
 
Except that current manufacturers will not tell a single thing what makes a TT really tick - but will sell you the table at 10 to 100 times the price of a Thorens/Linn. 
 
It is ALL about the economics/profit - whether we like it or not. Fact is that "metal pressed" vintage TTs can be modified into serious tables by a dedicated DIY-er - and if there is a decent DD involved, there is no way present TTs can compete at anything like the price.
 
It will be demonstrated that it is your comment that is lacking foundation in reality - not the other way around.

 

[Hijodelbrx]

....Photograph Of Your Turntable....the last page and a half had only TWO pics!  Just sayin'.  Honestly, I like the thread 'cause it features turntable porn.  Keep the pics comin'!! 

 

[bbophead]

  ....Photograph Of Your Turntable....the last page and a half had only TWO pics!  Just sayin'.  Honestly, I like the thread 'cause it features turntable porn.  Keep the pics comin'!! 

I agree.  There are other sites for advice and info.  Can we just KISS?
 
I know some of you peeps are tired of seeing my RP6 but this IS a photo site, no?  So, post already.
 
Here's the latest Sergio Mendez.  Yes, I'm sure it's a digital master.  Is there a problem?
 

 

[parbaked]

  Is there a problem?

I have a problem...you cropped your 2M Blackie out!!!

 

[parbaked]

 

[Eee Pee]

 

[bbophead]

 

  Is there a problem?

I have a problem...you cropped your 2M Blackie out!!!

Naw, that's just poor photography skills.  Mea culpa.

 

[analogsurviver]

 
I agree.  There are other sites for advice and info.  Can we just KISS?
 
I know some of you peeps are tired of seeing my RP6 but this IS a photo site, no?  So, post already.
 
Here's the latest Sergio Mendez.  Yes, I'm sure it's a digital master.  Is there a problem?
 

Yes, there is a problem.
 
Better cartridges tend to protest with a transparent reading : ( like a computer asking you, several times : Are you really sure you want to format the C drive ? ) :
 
Are you really sure you want to wear my precious stylus for this digital crap ?
 
Half joking, half serious; I can not say 100 % of what I listen to on vinyl has been recorded in analog - yet I see little reason in getting the worst of both worlds in playing a digital recording on a vinyl copy. 
 
That half joking, half serious gets ultra serious with truly outstanding vintage carts, whose styli are, for all practical purposes, all I will ever get and are by now unobtainium - at ANY price. No way on earth I will use them to play anything that was digitally recorded or remastered.

 

[Eee Pee]

Who cares? Take a hint and post pictures.

 

[bbophead]

LIKE!

 

[bbophead]

 

 
I agree.  There are other sites for advice and info.  Can we just KISS?
 
I know some of you peeps are tired of seeing my RP6 but this IS a photo site, no?  So, post already.
 
Here's the latest Sergio Mendez.  Yes, I'm sure it's a digital master.  Is there a problem?
 

Yes, there is a problem.
 
Better cartridges tend to protest with a transparent reading : ( like a computer asking you, several times : Are you really sure you want to format the C drive ? ) :
 
Are you really sure you want to wear my precious stylus for this digital crap ?
 
Half joking, half serious; I can not say 100 % of what I listen to on vinyl has been recorded in analog - yet I see little reason in getting the worst of both worlds in playing a digital recording on a vinyl copy. 
 
That half joking, half serious gets ultra serious with truly outstanding vintage carts, whose styli are, for all practical purposes, all I will ever get and are by now unobtainium - at ANY price. No way on earth I will use them to play anything that was digitally recorded or remastered.

Here's what I like about this vinyl copy of a digital recording, the art work, the readability, the process (looking, taking out the LP, cleaning, using my turntable, I could go on), oh, and it sounds really good.  No, I haven't compared it to the CD.  This is a 2M Black, it is not vintage. You are certainly welcome NOT to play a vinyl record made from a digital digital source.  I will enjoy the music.   

 

[analogsurviver]

  Here's what I like about this vinyl copy of a digital recording, the art work, the readability, the process (looking, taking out the LP, cleaning, using my turntable, I could go on), oh, and it sounds really good.  No, I haven't compared it to the CD.  This is a 2M Black, it is not vintage. You are certainly welcome NOT to play a vinyl record made from a digital digital source.  I will enjoy the music.   

I certainly agree regarding the readability, the process, etc - and regarding the use of de facto replaceable ( readily available ) styli ( either trough simple substitution for the new replaceable stylus or retipping ) - but I do mind using terrific vintage styli for digital recordings.
 
Once heard what truly great analog has in the grooves, knowing the only way to get it out of the grooves is trough styli from the bygone Golden Era  of analog ( late 70's-early 80's - have NO comparable equivalents in the production today, regardless of price ) - you would feel the same.
 
I agree it is music that comes first; but if that music is captured so much better in analog and is only retrievable by the select group of vintage carts/styli ( broadly speaking, less than 10 models from all of the manufacturers combined ) - playing those super recordings with lesser styli would "erase" those amazingly awesome recorded highs in one reproduction - and these super styli would be wasted by wearing them out unnecessarily with digital recordings.